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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:51:32 GMT -5
I don't consider myself astute enough to evaluate personalities with total confidence. I am always fascinated when laymen do have that confidence in their opinion. Reminds me of Skip Bayless lecturing Eric Mangini on NFL offense . The form of narcissism being discussed is outside my bailiwick. I see some traits but see other incredibly lacking, like shyness or self assuredness. As an aside I do like Marbury and Melo. I like both personally more than I like Jordan. I think this has already been mentioned but there has been one constant with the disastrous last 19 years and that is Dolan. That's twenty years of not merely futility and incompetence but of the kind that has an element of self-destructiveness. So though you may not agree with this element the track record alone speaks volumes. But I will add, once more, that it isn't the losing in and of itself but the *way* the Knicks have been losing-- the farcical, laughingstock aspect of it all. You are fortunate, in a way, that this subject is outside your "bailiwick." I am not as fortunate as you, but ironically better-qualified to weigh in on this subject. Plenty of time for Dolan to jump in at the worst possible moment and destroy things once again. You may not expect it but I do, and I have explained ad nauseam why. I don't think your logic here is up to the standards you normally display. True you are likely more qualified than I to evaluate a personality disorder. But I have a 106 year old aunt who is blind. I am more qualified than her to cover Julio Jones. But we know that I am not actually qualified. Art Rooney owned the Steelers without ANY success longer than Dolan owned the Knicks. And Then VOILA. They won and won. The past doesn't necessarily guarantee the future. So your explanation of what you expect to happen, while reasonable, in no major way affects my view of the team's future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:54:32 GMT -5
Why the need to bring politics into this forum? 8years of another narcissistic zero before this one. Part of the job description i guess. I do tend to disagree. Particularly with the "malignant" addition.
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Post by babylon5 on Jan 5, 2019 23:22:36 GMT -5
I figured you wouldn't be able to find anything Nic. Dont ever make an accusation of someone if you can't visually provide proof. I'll be waiting for my apology. You turned a blog post about a hack job sportswriter and turned it into a personal agenda about Dolan and no one mentioned Dolan but you. For whatever reason you are calling Bill and I sympathizers with what went on like 10 years ago when you can't find any evidence of your claim anywhere on this site. Took a break. Dealing with some crazy shit. I wasn't ignoring you. You trashed Marv Albert for being a registered sex offender. Okay, but if you are going to dismiss Marv's opinions because he is a sex offender, then can't I do the same with Dolan for backing Isiah a convicted sexual harasser? I think you are very forgiving of Dolan. I see Dolan as a man who is always capable of reminding everyone that he is an asshole. I view him a a landmine. He may lie dormant for years and then one day...BAM...he explodes.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jan 6, 2019 9:05:23 GMT -5
I figured you wouldn't be able to find anything Nic. Dont ever make an accusation of someone if you can't visually provide proof. I'll be waiting for my apology. You turned a blog post about a hack job sportswriter and turned it into a personal agenda about Dolan and no one mentioned Dolan but you. For whatever reason you are calling Bill and I sympathizers with what went on like 10 years ago when you can't find any evidence of your claim anywhere on this site. Took a break. Dealing with some crazy shit. I wasn't ignoring you. You trashed Marv Albert for being a registered sex offender. Okay, but if you are going to dismiss Marv's opinions because he is a sex offender, then can't I do the same with Dolan for backing Isiah a convicted sexual harasser? I think you are very forgiving of Dolan. I see Dolan as a man who is always capable of reminding everyone that he is an asshole. I view him a a landmine. He may lie dormant for years and then one day...BAM...he explodes. I'm sorry you're going through things right now. But all I expect from you is an apology for you saying I sympathize with Dolans environment of sexual harassment. Because I dont bring up Dolan every five seconds like you do, you made a bold and accusatory statement then ducked out and left for a few days, which included you also comparing me to 45 because I didnt agree with you. You dont have a right to try to tell me how I feel on a subject. And again, it wouldn't be a line I'd cross with you. Before you and I continue talking about anything I expect an apology out of you. Unjustified to someone who has treated you with respect from day one Nic.
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Post by babylon5 on Jan 6, 2019 10:17:39 GMT -5
Took a break. Dealing with some crazy shit. I wasn't ignoring you. You trashed Marv Albert for being a registered sex offender. Okay, but if you are going to dismiss Marv's opinions because he is a sex offender, then can't I do the same with Dolan for backing Isiah a convicted sexual harasser? I think you are very forgiving of Dolan. I see Dolan as a man who is always capable of reminding everyone that he is an asshole. I view him a a landmine. He may lie dormant for years and then one day...BAM...he explodes. I'm sorry you're going through things right now. But all I expect from you is an apology for you saying I sympathize with Dolans environment of sexual harassment. Because I dont bring up Dolan every five seconds like you do, you made a bold and accusatory statement then ducked out and left for a few days, which included you also comparing me to 45 because I didnt agree with you. You dont have a right to try to tell me how I feel on a subject. And again, it wouldn't be a line I'd cross with you. Before you and I continue talking about anything I expect an apology out of you. Unjustified to someone who has treated you with respect from day one Nic. Jason, 1. We disagree that the article you posted is a hatchet job and an example that Bondy is a scumbag. I stated that he may have written hatchet pieces in the past, but I don't view this one as an example of one. 2. We disagree on Dolan. I don't bring him up all the time. I just view Dolan as more responsible for the failures of the Knicks than any journalist, which you insinuated that Bondy and the media do. On the list of suspects most responsible for the lack of success of the Knicks or of any sports franchise, I put journalists at the bottom. 3. You tried to dismiss the opinion of Marv Albert's opinion by citing that he is a sex offender. What that has to do with his opinion about the Knicks is, at best, a non sequitur. 4. In general, I don't hold New York sports reporters in as low regard as you seem to. 5. I was not attempting to tell you how you should feel about this subject or any subject. If that is how you took it, or if I presented it as such, then I apologize.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jan 6, 2019 11:04:28 GMT -5
I'm sorry you're going through things right now. But all I expect from you is an apology for you saying I sympathize with Dolans environment of sexual harassment. Because I dont bring up Dolan every five seconds like you do, you made a bold and accusatory statement then ducked out and left for a few days, which included you also comparing me to 45 because I didnt agree with you. You dont have a right to try to tell me how I feel on a subject. And again, it wouldn't be a line I'd cross with you. Before you and I continue talking about anything I expect an apology out of you. Unjustified to someone who has treated you with respect from day one Nic. Jason, 1. We disagree that the article you posted is a hatchet job and an example that Bondy is a scumbag. I stated that he may have written hatchet pieces in the past, but I don't view this one as an example of one. 2. We disagree on Dolan. I don't bring him up all the time. I just view Dolan as more responsible for the failures of the Knicks than any journalist, which you insinuated that Bondy and the media do. On the list of suspects most responsible for the lack of success of the Knicks or of any sports franchise, I put journalists at the bottom. 3. You tried to dismiss the opinion of Marv Albert's opinion by citing that he is a sex offender. What that has to do with his opinion about the Knicks is, at best, a non sequitur. 4. In general, I don't hold New York sports reporters in as low regard as you seem to. 5. I was not attempting to tell you how you should feel about this subject or any subject. If that is how you took it, or if I presented it as such, then I apologize. Scroll back a page or two and fuck this article. You told me that I condone Dolans sexual harrassment work environment. This topic wasn't about Marv Albert or James Dolan. You are obsessed with Dolan. But aside from topic you expressed a falsehood about me because I didnt agree with you. You dont get to downplay what you said by saying whatever the hell you want to me. When I thought you were friends with someone for 20 plus years I felt it afforded an amount of respect. Watch yourself sir.
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Post by babylon5 on Jan 6, 2019 11:28:30 GMT -5
Jason, 1. We disagree that the article you posted is a hatchet job and an example that Bondy is a scumbag. I stated that he may have written hatchet pieces in the past, but I don't view this one as an example of one. 2. We disagree on Dolan. I don't bring him up all the time. I just view Dolan as more responsible for the failures of the Knicks than any journalist, which you insinuated that Bondy and the media do. On the list of suspects most responsible for the lack of success of the Knicks or of any sports franchise, I put journalists at the bottom. 3. You tried to dismiss the opinion of Marv Albert's opinion by citing that he is a sex offender. What that has to do with his opinion about the Knicks is, at best, a non sequitur. 4. In general, I don't hold New York sports reporters in as low regard as you seem to. 5. I was not attempting to tell you how you should feel about this subject or any subject. If that is how you took it, or if I presented it as such, then I apologize. Scroll back a page or two and fuck this article. You told me that I condone Dolans sexual harrassment work environment. This topic wasn't about Marv Albert or James Dolan. You are obsessed with Dolan. But aside from topic you expressed a falsehood about me because I didnt agree with you. You dont get to downplay what you said by saying whatever the hell you want to me. When I thought you were friends with someone for 20 plus years I felt it afforded an amount of respect. Watch yourself sir. Jason, My criticisms of Dolan are very specific. I have been very clear about my position that I feel that it is nigh impossible to overcome bad ownership. And if I am obsessed with Dolan, then I could counter that you are equally obsessed with several New York sports reporters. But it is okay to disagree. I believe I stated that you are excusing Dolan for his defense of Isiah, a convicted sexual harasser, but you damn Marv Albert and anything he says because he is a sexual offender. I find that hypocritical. If I stated that you condone sexual harassment then I apologize. But, I do recall, when you questioned on more than one occasion if I were a truly a Knicks fan because my opinion countered yours. He who is without sin...
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jan 6, 2019 12:08:06 GMT -5
Scroll back a page or two and fuck this article. You told me that I condone Dolans sexual harrassment work environment. This topic wasn't about Marv Albert or James Dolan. You are obsessed with Dolan. But aside from topic you expressed a falsehood about me because I didnt agree with you. You dont get to downplay what you said by saying whatever the hell you want to me. When I thought you were friends with someone for 20 plus years I felt it afforded an amount of respect. Watch yourself sir. Jason, My criticisms of Dolan are very specific. I have been very clear about my position that I feel that it is nigh impossible to overcome bad ownership. And if I am obsessed with Dolan, then I could counter that you are equally obsessed with several New York sports reporters. But it is okay to disagree. I believe I stated that you are excusing Dolan for his defense of Isiah, a convicted sexual harasser, but you damn Marv Albert and anything he says because he is a sexual offender. I find that hypocritical. If I stated that you condone sexual harassment then I apologize. But, I do recall, when you questioned on more than one occasion if I were a truly a Knicks fan because my opinion countered yours. He who is without sin... Nic because I dont think your thinking clearly, I'm just going to split the difference and both ignore you and call think of you as a stranger from this point on. You still keep saying I'm defending Dolan which nowhere can you EVEN NOW copy and paste or send a link on this blog site that I have. I've given you a week since I posted to find proof and I even asked other posters to help you. The reason why you can't come up with it, is because it doesn't exist. I pray you get the help you need in all aspects of your ailments. You cannot accept responsibility for anything you do. And you still think I'm talking about Dolan with you. We have nothing else to talk about. Overtake every post people put here with your rhetoric. I was one of the first people to always ask about you when you were gone and it's a shame I wasted my emotions on someone who compares me with Trump and then say I condone the behavior of Isiah Thomas knowing full well I have displayed neither. I can't break bread with you anymore Nic. You still think I'm upset about whatever you said about Dolan. Whatever you're going through has altered you into someone who I can't trust to be a friend anymore. Have a great one sir. God bless you. You can have the last word if you want. It's all yours.
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Jan 8, 2019 9:11:31 GMT -5
I wish we could leave politics out of the Knicks forum.When I do it then all hell breaks lose but when you guys do it since you all love the Trump bashing it's Okay ,so let me get this strait can I now use my hated politician,Kanter plays defense like Obama Hussein handles the economy.You see when you bring it in and it doesn't agree with you it bothers you right.Let's leave it out then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 10:51:41 GMT -5
Whatever you post about Obama or Trump doesn't bother me at all. When someone thinks it is ok to separate babies from their parents with no care or method to reunite them, that bothers me. To put babies in cages; that bothers me.
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Post by rxmeister on Jan 8, 2019 12:39:37 GMT -5
Not to mention adding “Hussein” to Obama’s name to demean him is flat out racist. You pretend to support Trump for his achievements but when you say that you expose your real reason for supporting him.
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Post by ignitowsky on Jan 8, 2019 15:51:10 GMT -5
I wish we could leave politics out of the Knicks forum.When I do it then all hell breaks lose but when you guys do it since you all love the Trump bashing it's Okay ,so let me get this strait can I now use my hated politician,Kanter plays defense like Obama Hussein handles the economy.You see when you bring it in and it doesn't agree with you it bothers you right.Let's leave it out then. Stick to basketball and football. You Don't Know Jack zhit about politics OR the economy. Just for your information when Barack Obama was elected the economy was about to go over the side of a cliff. The Dow was sitting at around 6300 parts of the Auto industry were about to go under, and unemployment was at an all-time high or close to it. When Barack Obama left office and your boy Donald Trump stole the presidency, the job was that around 18,000 and the economy was stronger than it had been in decades. But don't worry, he's doing his best to take the economy and send us back into the Dark Ages. Look at what happened to Apple stock last week because of his stupid tariffs. Look at the companies that are talking about having to leave their manufacturing plants here in the United States and go to other countries because of his ridiculous policies. Look at the TSA workers that aren't getting paid at have to come in anyway because of his ridiculous border wall which would accomplish absolutely nothing. Calling him Obama Hussein is racist by the way. I won't stand racism from you or anyone else on this board or in real life. If you want to have any credibility posting on a board where everyone else is on side of the political aisle from you, I would suggest just shutting the fuck up if someone makes a little dig at your boy cheetolini. Just grin and bear it. Nothing good will come of denigrating the man who was perhaps one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country, certainly In Our Lifetime. I don't know if your kid has any kids, but this planet is going to be a hell hole sooner rather than later, and you can blame your pals in the Republican party and cheetolini in particular for doing their best to reverse every positive climate change initiative implemented by the United States over the past 10 years in an effort to send this back to the days when no one cares about carbon emissions or jumping pollutants into rivers. Enjoy it while it lasts, because the midterms should give you a really good sense of what's going to happen in 2020 whether Republicans will be very rolling rolly in the Senate and the Democrats will probably pick up even more House Seats. Expect your boy the orange menace to have some sort of major health issue that will force him to resign before the election because I don't think he's going to be able to stand the pressure once real investigations start happening in the house and people like Donald Trump jr. And Eric Trump have to answer real questions involving their family's involvement with Russia and campaign fraud. PS. Happy New Year, because this is about as happy as you're going to be from here on out. Expect a dumpster fire that you call a president to make a total ass out of himself tonight on National Television. Make sure you record it so you can relive the good parts, if there are any.
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Post by axios on Jan 8, 2019 16:13:04 GMT -5
we hardly get basketball right and we want to talk politics? The cages were there when Barry was President still there now. (my cheap shot) Let's get back to basketball.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jan 8, 2019 16:40:36 GMT -5
we hardly get basketball right and we want to talk politics? The cages were there when Barry was President still there now. (my cheap shot) Let's get back to basketball. Amen Brother!
FWIW, be wary of any political entity who claims credit or assigns blame for an economic movement or event. The economy is HUGE and often movement we see now is several administrations and YEARS in the making. Let's take Apple as an example. I'm an Apple Fanboy and have been for close to 3 decades but the news of declining iPhone sales in China that sent the market into a tailspin is not just the result of tariffs imposed by the current administration. Naturally they are one of the root causes but Apple has too many of their metaphorical apples in the iPhone basket and this latest news is the result of Apple not diversifying and innovating more as well as the market tightening up in Asia. Plus "analysts" seem to always have unrealistic growth estimates for Apple and then when Apple exceeds those expectations the resulting fluctuation of value is maybe not as solid as it might seem.
Please note the above statement is ANTI partisan.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jan 8, 2019 18:05:04 GMT -5
we hardly get basketball right and we want to talk politics? The cages were there when Barry was President still there now. (my cheap shot) Let's get back to basketball. Amen Brother!
FWIW, be wary of any political entity who claims credit or assigns blame for an economic movement or event. The economy is HUGE and often movement we see now is several administrations and YEARS in the making. Let's take Apple as an example. I'm an Apple Fanboy and have been for close to 3 decades but the news of declining iPhone sales in China that sent the market into a tailspin is not just the result of tariffs imposed by the current administration. Naturally they are one of the root causes but Apple has too many of their metaphorical apples in the iPhone basket and this latest news is the result of Apple not diversifying and innovating more as well as the market tightening up in Asia. Plus "analysts" seem to always have unrealistic growth estimates for Apple and then when Apple exceeds those expectations the resulting fluctuation of value is maybe not as solid as it might seem.
Please note the above statement is ANTI partisan. Do you think Tim Cook is not innovative enough after the founder passed away? And if so which ways can Apple diversify their portfolio?
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