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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 18, 2009 11:26:56 GMT -5
The Knicks might be off the Andre Miller hunt and on to Ramon Sessions the young PG from Milwaukee. The 23 year old 6'3, 190lber from Nevado-Reno is uber athletic though not a great shooter especially from long distance (.176 last year though he only had 34 attempts behind the 3 point line). Sessions has a 3-1 Assist to Turnover ratio averaging 6 assists and under 2 turnovers for his career in 27 minutes a game. He can penetrate to the rim and finish. he's an outstanding leaper and he has nice size. The rumor is the MLE and in this case it's worth it. Aside from the shooting he is a fit, he's athletic and young. NY may be trying to work out a trade also and keep their MLE. www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60656/20090718/knicks_to_call_bucks_about_sessions/Sessions career stats from NBA.com. www.nba.com/playerfile/ramon_sessions/career_stats.html |
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Post by axios on Jul 18, 2009 12:20:15 GMT -5
sounds like douglas?
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 18, 2009 13:13:31 GMT -5
Quicker and more athletic. The kid (Sessions) has some upside but out of the box, despite his showing in the summer league, Douglas is a better offensive player all around and defender. Sessions scores by getting to the basket ala Tony Parker though he lacks Parker's improving midrange jumper.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 18, 2009 14:05:12 GMT -5
I like Sessions. He destroyed Duhon and NY last season and he made a quantum leap from his rookie year to last year. This is who the Knicks should go after. His agent said that 12 NBA teams as well as the Greek team who wants Nate, are interested in the 23 year old RFA. However, no team has extended an offer to the kid, including the Bucks.
I read an article from a Milwaukee-area paper that the Bucks were going to offer a large portion of their mid-level to keep Ramon. I wonder who NY would offer in a sign and trade? Maybe our ever improving Jared Jeffries? Or, perhaps give Milwaukee Nate Robinson--sign Nate to a $4.5 million one year deal and swap Robinson for Ramon?
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Post by axios on Jul 18, 2009 18:29:06 GMT -5
dont really remember Sessions, have to check him out.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 19, 2009 6:50:48 GMT -5
Nobody wants the "ever improving Jeffries" and his tired contact but us and a hint of the Wizards before they did those deals on the draft
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 19, 2009 10:53:46 GMT -5
I imagine the market for Jefferies is a lot like the market for Pontiacs. ; ) A sign and trade deal with Nate for Sessions works if Milwaukee was interested. Throw in some cash and they might be.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 19, 2009 13:25:56 GMT -5
Basically Walsh needs a GM because his tactics are both a gift and a curse. The gift comes when he doesnt submit to the agents of Lee and Nate, trading away Q, Malik, Z-bo, Crawford and draft Gallinari and the gamble on Kidd and Grant Hill Zeke nor Layden would have taken.
The curse is the reluctance to think like a fan and mix that with the creativity and the economices of decades of experience as a president of bball operations and make moves like making a formal take it or leave it deal with our own free agents, making an reasonable but aggressive offer to either Sessions or Andre miller. The non dealing of Curry/Mobley tract to Houston yet, the lack of Nate and jeffries deal to Sac town for K. Thomas and whatever else yet. IMO, these two deals need to happen like right now.
Even to help us get the right players time this season and not waste talent on the bench while Jeffries and curry pretend to play ball and showcase themselves. Give me one deal at least Walsh. These arent cap hurting deals like Zeke used to make so let's get moving. We need a smart GM to help Walsh maybe on some of his shortcomings in pace when looking to improving this team with savvy as only us knowledgable fans can.
Let's hope 2010 doesn't have us waiting til August 1st to make offers to Wade or Lebron or Bosh or roy. At that rate we'd be left with comeback attempt from Doug christie, Maciej Lampe and a fourth signing of Tim Thomas, lol.
Let's Go NY
-Jason
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 20, 2009 8:59:27 GMT -5
Donnie Walsh is not going to overpay for David Lee, Nate Robinson, or any other ballplayer like Zeke, Layden, or Checketts. Under any of our former GMs, NY would have already inked Robinson and Lee to asinine contracts which would destroy the plan for 2010-11.
We all knew that this offseason would not be about signing free agents. Walsh made it clear from his first day on the job that he was going to rebuild this team, and, so far, he has shed two cap crippling contracts, is not giving in to the outlandish demands of his RFA representatives, and is not throwing money away to acquire players who would add nothing to the team.
I prefer this manager over his two predecessors who destroyed the franchise.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 20, 2009 9:17:45 GMT -5
Jason
You may end up being right but it's too early to really judge. If Walsh doesn't use his cards right in a deal, specifically the Mobley contract, is unable to resolve the Lee/Nate situations or cannot land the MLE free agent we want then I think your points have great validity. Right now I am more inclined to sit back and wait.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 20, 2009 9:36:49 GMT -5
According to Milwaukee Sportswriter, Gery Woelfel, the Knicks plan to land Ramon Sessions with the mild-level exception by Tuesday, at the latest.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 20, 2009 11:22:47 GMT -5
I said this on another thread but the rumor is also out there that Milwaukee will match an offer for Sessions using our David Lee strategy of letting the market determine value. It makes sense. Perhaps a sign and trade can be worked out.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 20, 2009 16:13:19 GMT -5
Nobody wants the "ever improving Jeffries" and his tired contact but us and a hint of the Wizards before they did those deals on the draft Jason... I was being a bit facetious in saying the "ever improving" Jeffries. That said let's do keep in mind that there is interest in Jeffries referring to the Sacramento Kings in the oft-rumored Kenny Thomas deal, although with Nate Robinson reportedly signing with that Greek team, I am sure that deal is off the table. Washington was rumored to be interested in a Jeffries for Mike James straight up trade, which would remove Jared from our cap next year while providing insurance at the SG position this season. |
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 20, 2009 16:25:18 GMT -5
I said this on another thread but the rumor is also out there that Milwaukee will match an offer for Sessions using our David Lee strategy of letting the market determine value. It makes sense. Perhaps a sign and trade can be worked out. I recall reading something (either you or an on line piece) that David Lee may be involved in a sign and trade with the Bucks, and involving Ramon Sessions, Bill. Considering that Milwaukee let Charlie Villenueva simply walk away and sign with Detroit for $35,000,000 over 5 years, it would appear that Lee would be a perfect fit for Milwaukee--if Bartlestein would stop this ridiculousness over David being a $10-$12,000,000 a year player. Milwaukee may be willing to part with Sessions, if we can get David signed for $6.5 million. That begs the question if we should retain David at that bargain basement price and try to offer up another desirable chip which the Bucks may agree to. Sessions may be a great deal at the MLE, but it is risky if Milwaukee is seriously thinking of matching... |
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 21, 2009 1:37:44 GMT -5
Ken....
In response to two of my above postings, the tone in your answer regarding what i wrote about Jared jeffries is response to what you said and about Donnie Walsh I think you misunderstood me my friend.
With the Jeffries thing, I wasn't trying to mock you at all and i now you were tongue in cheek with that statement but really all I was trying yo point out was Jared Jeffries doesn't really have a market much.
Regarding Walsh, I hope to the creator above he doesn't pull a Layden or Zeke ever unless the players warrants it BUT I believe we could have looked at Artest or Ariza for what they signed for. Artest obviously picked the best team in the NBA and who wouldn't but he always wanted to come to NY and maybe the Walsh connection might have smited any such deal. OK but Wallace who is he good rebounder and shooting big who also play defense would have put a tough fortitude albeit a feisty one next to curry or Lee. Ariza went to Houston but without Artest, McGrady and now Yao clearly there could have been better incentive for us to give him to come hear instead of allowing the market to come to him while we wait.
I like Walsh alot but I just hope his patience wont allow us to wait too long next summer is all to make aggressive offers early. Thats all i was saying.
-Jason
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