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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 22, 2009 11:34:51 GMT -5
There might be some interest in Larry Hughes or Jared Jefferies fromt heir former team the Washington Wizards. www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59970/20090622/wizards_interested_in_hughes_jeffries/#Apparently Wilson Chandler was never offered to Washington. Instead the Wizards are looking at Hughes, who they tried to trade for last season, as the perfect compliment for a healthy Gilbert Arenas. SG has been a big issue with Washington since Hughes left the Wizards for Cleveland. The proposed trade is Hughes for Center Etan Thomas and G Mike James. The #5 pick is not included. For the Knicks this might be a good move. Thomas (who I have coveted for awhile) is a big, burly defensive minded center/tough guy who has health issues. James (a Knick killer in the past) is a scoring combo guard. The better guy to move is Jefferies. If we can trade Jefferies (for either Thomas or James) we free up enough cap room to make a run at David Lee or we have more cap room to add to a max contract in 2010. As for the #5 pick other teams are in the hunt. The #5 pick is where we can get Stephen Curry and Curry is one of the very few guys in this draft who is a perfect fit for the Knicks right now. PGs Tyreke Evans, Jonny Flynn, Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holiday and Ty Lawson are all guys we take a good look at but in the end it's Curry though if the Knicks get the #2 pick there is a strong likelihood they go after Ricky Rubio who they want to work out this week before the draft. Still it's just rumors and we have seen far too many smoke but no substance reports in the past few weeks. |
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Post by will1682 on Jun 22, 2009 12:27:54 GMT -5
Talk about breathing a sigh of relief concerning Wilson Chandler, never wouldve understood that one. The following restriction came up on RealGM's trade checker concerning Etan Thomas:
Etan Thomas from Washington
Thomas is in the last non-exercisable year of his contract and cannot be traded. However, next season is currently an early termination option and if is not exercised, then the player can be traded.
It has always seemed that the biggest Jared Jeffries fanbase is in Washington. If there is legit interest I would be shoving J.J. down their throat for either Thomas or James just to get his deal off the cap and further accomodate 2010. Thomas, if healthy, would be more ideal in my opinion.
I will say that I do not see a scenario with these four that could land us the 5th pick. Trading Hughes for both would be virtually the same for both teams cap wise for next year. And although he may have a fanbase, I dont see Washington throwing in the 5 along with Thomas or James for Jeffries.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 22, 2009 13:23:07 GMT -5
We would have to sweeten the deal to get the #5 which makes me think all of our draft hopes are centered around making that deal with Memphis for the #2 pick. Now that Hasheem Thabeet has expressed a strong desire not to play in Memphis maybe the pick is even more available since conventional opinion is he was their first and best choice.
The Cuttino Mobley contract is going to be a strong card to be played if we play it right.
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Post by kgooglog on Jun 22, 2009 13:37:28 GMT -5
Will and Bill...
I just read the HoopsHype article and let's remember that Grunfeld is inexplicably still employed by the 'Zards, so anything is possible. Chandler is going nowhere, so dumping Hughes and Jeffries, even without the 5th pick, is like a gift from heaven. Both James and Thomas' contracts, according to Alan Hahn (Newsday) are off the books in the summer of 2010. Jeffries' deal is a huge stumbling block for NY, and if Walsh can dump Jared--Hughes is a non-factor based on his deal expiring in the summer, NY has to make this trade. This is an extra $7,000,000 dollars and now we can start talking BOTH LeBron and Bosh with a reasonable degree of hope.
What would make this deal even sweeter is exchanging picks with Washington, which would ensure NY getting Steph Curry, although I have been getting good vibes from this Jordan Hill fellow, who may compliment Bosh and lesson the blow of the loss of David Lee. I also read that Donnie is secretly coveting Jordan Hill and "hyping" up all of these guards with all of these workouts.
BTW, an interesting not about my man Thabeet, who cancelled a workout with Sacramento, due to some family issues in New York. Key word= New York. If Hasheem drops to #5, I think the big man can be our's if Donnie switches picks, as I've heard that Washington is not interested that much in #5.
I view this news as promising. Thanf the lord, Jeffries started playing well in the last month of the season, but let him go back to Washington with LH. We really do not need these two, but we do need to cut salary.
BTW, Steve Nash wants NY so bad he went public of Letterman, and ask him "to make it work", LOL!
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Post by kgooglog on Jun 22, 2009 13:50:19 GMT -5
We would have to sweeten the deal to get the #5 which makes me think all of our draft hopes are centered around making that deal with Memphis for the #2 pick. Now that Hasheem Thabeet has expressed a strong desire not to play in Memphis maybe the pick is even more available since conventional opinion is he was their first and best choice. The Cuttino Mobley contract is going to be a strong card to be played if we play it right. Excellent point, Bill, about Cuttino's deal being a sweet incentive. Perhaps we can use that card to move up to #2, in which I think we have to take Thabeet, which I think would truly augment our number 8 slot--be it Curry, Evens, or Lawson. What a coup it would be if Donnie can get both the number 2 and 5 pick, and actually manage to keep our 8th pick! Okay, back to reality. That Mobley contract is what many teams would die for. All of these teams are so strapped for cash, and I hope does what you say. Play this one with a poker face and I would target Memphis, who would suck that deal straight up for a number 2 pick, IMHO. They are under the cap and Walsh may have take advantage of other team's fiscal deficits. I would hope that this Wizards' rumor has some substance, for getting rid of Jared Jeffries' deal is literally money in the bank. I don't even care if Mike James or Etan Thomas play a minute for NY. We are banking money for our LeBron/Bosh run. That's all that matters, now. Plus, Etan can give us some minutes in the post, whilst the precocious neophyte Thabeet gets mean, lean, and becomes a dancing machine in workouts. Man, I am getting too darn giddy and it is only Monday...3 and a half more days to go, and counting. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 22, 2009 14:46:37 GMT -5
Ken
Just one note. Larry Hughes contract expires next summer so there is no rush to trade him. I'm down with it if it helps us but Hughes is not the priority. Jefferies is though. Trading him would be a major coup and showcasing Eddy Curry before February and shipping him would be a dream come true.
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Post by mercury on Jun 22, 2009 21:18:02 GMT -5
If the trade with the Wizards happens it will most likely include Hughes, and Chandler for the 5th pick, Mike James, and Etan Thomas or Haywood. I say pass Chandler could be a top 5 pick in this draft. He is already NBA tested and only has room to improve. The only way I do this trade is Hughes for James, Thomas and Mcgee or Blatche or the Wizards 2010 pick. But noway should we trade Chandler. I would keep Chandler for a potnetial Bosh trade.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 22, 2009 21:46:18 GMT -5
Merc
Some good ideas. Certainly Lee and Chandler for Bosh is equitable and something I never considered.
I am hoping the Wizards proposed trade is for Jefferies and not Hughes. That helps the Knicks the most.
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Post by greatgates on Jun 23, 2009 13:59:13 GMT -5
Merc Some good ideas. Certainly Lee and Chandler for Bosh is equitable and something I never considered. I am hoping the Wizards proposed trade is for Jefferies and not Hughes. That helps the Knicks the most.  what i saw didn't resemble the Hughes of a few years back, at either end of the court. I could see Washington wanting jeffries alot more than hughes and I don't like jeffries. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 23, 2009 14:20:56 GMT -5
Hughes had his moments. Remember Chicago had not played him for 2 months when he got to NY so there was a lot of rust to shake off. He's a good all around player with one glaring deficiency and that is his streaky shooting/low FG %. Otherwise I like him fine. He's one of the NBA's best picking off the ball in the passing lanes and he's a decent man defender too.
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what i saw didn't resemble the Hughes of a few years back, at either end of the court. I could see Washington wanting jeffries alot more than hughes and I don't like jeffries.