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Post by daglazer on Jun 18, 2009 17:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 18, 2009 18:44:52 GMT -5
All right.
It sucks. ; )
On a more serious note you hit the key points, it was succinct and comprehensible and most importantly it showed informed insight into the game and the Knicks in particular.
Good job. The bane of sportswriters is falling in love with their own prose and taking positions they don't even agree with in order to create buzz and promote themselves. You obviously show none of those ego maniacal tendencies. Be on guard against making yourself bigger than the story if you are going to write regularly on sports. It seems almost every sportswriter I ever liked has fallen prey to their own ego. Then again their fall back positions aren't as good as yours. ; )
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Post by daglazer on Jun 18, 2009 20:09:55 GMT -5
All right. It sucks. ; ) On a more serious note you hit the key points, it was succinct and comprehensible and most importantly it showed informed insight into the game and the Knicks in particular. Good job. The bane of sportswriters is falling in love with their own prose and taking positions they don't even agree with in order to create buzz and promote themselves. You obviously show none of those ego maniacal tendencies. Be on guard against making yourself bigger than the story if you are going to write regularly on sports. It seems almost every sportswriter I ever liked has fallen prey to their own ego. Then again their fall back positions aren't as good as yours. ; ) Don't worry Bill. I am keeping my day job. Besides, my oversized ego demands that I try to be right rather than create controversy. ;-) |
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Post by will1682 on Jun 18, 2009 20:47:23 GMT -5
Great article! Look foward to more!
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Post by kgooglog on Jun 18, 2009 21:10:51 GMT -5
DA...
I truly enjoyed your analysis and agree with so many of your points, that I have only accolades for your article. I truly resonate with any trade, including the one you proposed, which involves ridding ourselves of Eddy Curry. One issue remains somewhat unclear to me and that involves David Lee's restricted free agency status.
As a RFA, he cannot be involved in any draft day deal, if memory serves, until some date in July. I may be wrong, but this should also apply to Nate Robinson's marketability regarding a draft day deal. Thus, I see any attempt by NY to move up in the draft taking on the shape of an Al Harrington plus our #8 or possibly any one of our expiring deals plus our #8 going to Memphis, Sacramento, or Clippers.
I am starting to believe that both of our RFA players may not be Knicks, particularly The General. David Lee, IMHO, has more value to a team than the mercurial Robinson. I just have this feeling that we will be somewhat surprised with the goings on in Knickland this summer.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 19, 2009 0:17:10 GMT -5
Ken
We can't do anything with David Lee till July 9th. I'm not sure on Nate but it's after July 1st. With RFAs they can entertain entreaties from all teams and sign an offer sheet with any one team that best fits their needs. The Knicks then have the option of matching the deal. The same rules apply to a sign and trade where we negotiate with the player on a contract and agree with the player to trade him to another team. The reason you can't do Draft Day deals with FA's is because they are off limits till after July 1st.
As for trade marketability on Draft Day the contract of Cuttino Mobley is NBA gold. The insurance company is paying 80% of his deal so while the full amount of his contract, 9.5 million, counts against the cap the team we trade his contract to only pays 1.9 million of that amount in real money. If your team is cash strapped this is manna from Heaven. ; ) Saving 7.6 million dollars or more (keeping in mind we could trade Mobley for a deal worth 12.5 million if that's the way it worked out) is a huge deal to smaller market teams.
I don't see a way to keep David Lee and still have enough cap room to sign a max contract LeBron James type of deal in the summer of 2010. Now David could settle for less money and less years and that would work or Donnie Walsh could roll the dice, sign Lee and hope he can trade Jared Jefferies and/or Eddy Curry but my thinking right now is the Knicks seem committed to letting Lee go. I'd love it if he stayed but Donnie isn't taking my calls these days. ; )
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Post by daglazer on Jun 19, 2009 6:49:35 GMT -5
DA... I truly enjoyed your analysis and agree with so many of your points, that I have only accolades for your article. I truly resonate with any trade, including the one you proposed, which involves ridding ourselves of Eddy Curry. One issue remains somewhat unclear to me and that involves David Lee's restricted free agency status. As a RFA, he cannot be involved in any draft day deal, if memory serves, until some date in July. I may be wrong, but this should also apply to Nate Robinson's marketability regarding a draft day deal. Thus, I see any attempt by NY to move up in the draft taking on the shape of an Al Harrington plus our #8 or possibly any one of our expiring deals plus our #8 going to Memphis, Sacramento, or Clippers. I am starting to believe that both of our RFA players may not be Knicks, particularly The General. David Lee, IMHO, has more value to a team than the mercurial Robinson. I just have this feeling that we will be somewhat surprised with the goings on in Knickland this summer. Ken, In order for any trade with Lee or Nate to work, they would have to be on board. That is what makes it so difficult. Bill is right about Mobley being a great bargaining chip for a cash strapped team. So perhaps there is an opening there. Maybe with Detroit to get their 15th pick. |
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Post by kgooglog on Jun 19, 2009 8:26:03 GMT -5
Bill and DA...
Guys, thanks for the clarity regarding Lee and Robinson. I have to agree with Bill's thoughts that David will used in a trade e.g. sign and trade since Nate has been the more inconsistent of the two and actually hurt his own value in the last 6 weeks of the season. Donnie may be able to retain him for much less than I originally thought, although I do not think either player will be here next season, unless we can dump Fat Lard.
Isn't ironic that Mobley may actually end up playing an MVP-type role for NY, without playing a minute on the court? I nearly forgot about his contract, until you both spoke of it, and I am hopeful that Donnie plays his cards right on this one.
I had an idea that may work in terms of getting rid of Eddy Curry. Why not use Cutino's contract as an incentive to say, the Sarcramento Kings, with Curry and we take back Kenny Thomas and their draft pick?
I also read today (much to my glee) that Cleveland has some financial bumps in the road, which can only bode well for LeBron's Knick arrival. Danny Ferry's ass is hanging by a big Z, LOL!
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Post by axios on Jun 19, 2009 8:27:39 GMT -5
Nice D, very succinct. why no mention about walsh hiring scott layden as a draft consultant?  |
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Post by kgooglog on Jun 19, 2009 8:30:18 GMT -5
Nice D, very succinct. why no mention about walsh hiring scott layden as a draft consultant? This is an evil joke, Ax, unless, of course, it is true...Here I was enjoying my caffeine, and the ugly head of Scott Layden had to rear itself...Say it ain't so, please! |
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Post by axios on Jun 19, 2009 9:50:11 GMT -5
Scotty told Donnie to draft either Brandon Eisley, Jrue Anderson or Ricky Sweetney with the 8th pick.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 19, 2009 12:50:16 GMT -5
Scotty told Donnie to draft either Brandon Eisley, Jrue Anderson or Ricky Sweetney with the 8th pick. Good one Axios!  |
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Post by daglazer on Jun 19, 2009 20:25:18 GMT -5
I read an interesting article on ESPN about the best drafters over the last 20 years. Bryan Colangelo was the best. Isiah came in second. Isiah said that his philosophy was to pick the player as if he was choosing sides in a pickup game. He said that he liked guys who would rebound. It makes sense now when thinking of his picks. With the exception of Frye, they were all great playground style players. You can't build a championship team that way, but it did create more hits than misses.
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Post by greatgates on Jun 19, 2009 20:51:07 GMT -5
Excellent work DA but i would have expected nothing less. |
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Post by greatgates on Jun 19, 2009 20:56:54 GMT -5
I read an interesting article on ESPN about the best drafters over the last 20 years. Bryan Colangelo was the best. Isiah came in second. Isiah said that his philosophy was to pick the player as if he was choosing sides in a pickup game. He said that he liked guys who would rebound. It makes sense now when thinking of his picks. With the exception of Frye, they were all great playground style players. You can't build a championship team that way, but it did create more hits than misses. You might win that way. one great thing about rebounders is that very few are soft. I'll take lansberger over tripucka or hubert every time. |
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