POST LOTTERY

[mercury]

The board seems to be dead. All of the hope of the lottery is gone, and worse of all to the damm Clippers. However, we are knick fans and used to dissapointment than any other fan . We should stay positive. We will be under the cap by 2010. At the begining of last year that wasent even possible. We will pick 8th in the draft. You never know who we might pick. Meaning Krl Malone was the 13th pick, Arenas was picked in the second round, and many other players who have turned out to be difference makers.

The Knicks do have some pieces tp make trades. What would you think about D Lee, Chnadler, and the 8th pick for Bosh. I read this online its seem to be to much for Bosh.However, I would do the deal for Wade or LeBron. All im getting at is we have some pieces to make moves.

[kgooglog]

I think Walsh should use this year's pick to trade for a 2010 pick or, as you've suggested, an established NBA star. Take out Wilson's name, and I'd pull the trigger in a second on that Bosh trade. Plus, CB4 doesn't seem enamored with the Raptors or the value of the Canadian dollar.

Wade and LeBron will be FAs in 2010, and NY can just offer one of them the max, the opportunity to play in NY, plus billions in endorsements. For Lebron, I'd trade the two players plus a decades' worth of first round picks, if he does sign an extension with Cleveland...

We have many pieces to make moves, but the Knicks cannot revert back to their old ways of buying fat players and giving them the trough, LOL!

[irish2u2]

D.Lee, Chandler AND the #8 pick in the draft for Bosh? I like Bosh but that price is way too high.

Harrington and Lee might do it though.

[mercury]

Harrington and Lee for Bosh would be great. Im hearing that Rubio wants a big market, and will threaten to pull from the draft if the Grizz try to draft him. How about Rubio and Darko on the last year of his contract for Lee.

[kgooglog]

In my heart of hearts, I am with Bill on David Lee plus our 8th pick for Chris Bosh. CB4 is key for us to sign LeBron, for now we would have 2 prolific "star" scorers, plus every intangible that James brings. LeBron can and does play 4 positions, as well.

I want Wilson Chandler to stay and become that third player who can put the pill in the basket. D'Antoni loves this kid and Wilson is also an excellent defender who would easily be able to nail the starting job at SG.

I have a lot of faith in Gallo coming back as perhaps that high post center that we have discussed in the past. While I do not see Danillo as a full-time pivot threat, I think he also is versatile enough to play all three front-court positions.

Although I think one of these college PGs would be a terrific addition for next season, we need to consider that if James is a Knick in 2010, how important is an upgrade to that position? I can live with Duhon next season, although I would not mind J-Kidd or Steve Nash for a year or two at the mid-level exception. At #8, the Knicks have a few PGs to choose from, but maybe the pick would be better served as a trading chip, with Lee, in order to get our Raptor...

In terms of that shot-blocking pivot, I want to see how fat-ass does in the summer camps and preseason, but more importantly, I truly think that Saer Sene may be an excellent addition for the Knicks, as long as he doesn't become obsessed with scoring. I also liked Courtney Sims during his brief stint as a Knick, and this Hunter fellow is an unknown. Of course, another trade could be in the works, perhaps for the now-elderly Marcus Camby or for the younger, but injury-prone Tyson Chandler, who , IMHO, would be the best pivot for a running team.

[dk7th]

i would not count on lbj being a knick any longer especially since he is likely to win a title with cleveland this year. what is more important to this guy-- money and exposure or eternal glory by winning multiple titles? let's not kid ourselves.
chandler is a good but not great player who looks to be a third option on a contending team no doubt. but gallinari is the better basketball player and has the tools to be a second option on a contender. look at what turkoglu is doing this year. it has taken him a number of years but he is the real deal and i see gallinari as following in this mold.
but the knicks will still need a first option, and that will mean someone who can defend the position, and create for not only himself but others as well. chandler does not project to be the type of creative player that gallo does, but if he works on his defense and his jump shot then he will be a crucial part of a winning formula but as a third option. and i don't see gallinari as being the type of leader that would equate to being a first option on a contender.
the knicks have two choices before them in the form of two separate scenarios: find a bonafide superstar who can lead, or continue to build a lineup that has solid complete players who defend their position and at the same time make sure the team develops a deep bench.
lebron james is a once in a generation player and it wouold be stupid to hang ones hopes on his coming here.
better to think of how to slowly build a solid but deep team that defends and can wear opponents down .
the rub of course is whether d'antoni can coach such a team. i personally have severe doubts and frankly would not mind if he gets canned since i do not believe tat lebron james is coming to new york in 2010.
of course i would be delighted to be wrong but lebron james is not after money and exposure he is all about winning.
refreshing but not to the advantage of the knickerbockers.

[mercury]

I say LeBron will become a Knick. Right now James has been in a good mood since they been coasting throught he playoffs. However, alot can change in a year. We have no idea what LeBron is all about. Most men are suckers for fortune and fame. Le

[mercury]

Lebron will become Clide 2000. The King of New York.

[greatgates]

May 22, 2009 19:44:06 GMT -5 @dk7th said:

i would not count on lbj being a knick any longer especially since he is likely to win a title with cleveland this year. what is more important to this guy-- money and exposure or eternal glory by winning multiple titles? let's not kid ourselves.
chandler is a good but not great player who looks to be a third option on a contending team no doubt. but gallinari is the better basketball player and has the tools to be a second option on a contender. look at what turkoglu is doing this year. it has taken him a number of years but he is the real deal and i see gallinari as following in this mold.
but the knicks will still need a first option, and that will mean someone who can defend the position, and create for not only himself but others as well. chandler does not project to be the type of creative player that gallo does, but if he works on his defense and his jump shot then he will be a crucial part of a winning formula but as a third option. and i don't see gallinari as being the type of leader that would equate to being a first option on a contender.
the knicks have two choices before them in the form of two separate scenarios: find a bonafide superstar who can lead, or continue to build a lineup that has solid complete players who defend their position and at the same time make sure the team develops a deep bench.
lebron james is a once in a generation player and it wouold be stupid to hang ones hopes on his coming here.
better to think of how to slowly build a solid but deep team that defends and can wear opponents down .
the rub of course is whether d'antoni can coach such a team. i personally have severe doubts and frankly would not mind if he gets canned since i do not believe tat lebron james is coming to new york in 2010.
of course i would be delighted to be wrong but lebron james is not after money and exposure he is all about winning.
refreshing but not to the advantage of the knickerbockers.

Nice post DK but a couple of issues. If lebron is a "once in a generation player" then it would be stupid NOT to hang ones hopes on his coming here.
If we can somehow obtain a better 2ND option than Mo Williams this season then Lebron should end up with a significantly better team than cleveland by 2011.

Stars seem to win in the playoffs ( old Pistons aside -BTW Chauncey is possibly working on a HOF career) Look at final four teams and some of the teams that injuries cost deep run possibilities(SA, Bos, NO). Mo Williams is a pretty mediocre 2nd fiddle, alot worse that Chauncey, Hedo, or Pau. personally I'm for the do ANYTHING to get a megastar and then do ANYTHING (other than trade the megastar) to get a second star. I do agree that gallo has 2nd star potential but a proven 2nd star and gallo as a bonus hmmm - now we're playin.

[mercury]

There is talk that Phil Jackson and Andrew Bynum arent getting along. If the Lakers want to trade Bynum does anyone think he'd be a good pick considering he is signed to 2011. Maybe an offer of Lee and Robinson could get it done. Bynum has been inconsistent in his young career, but at times has been very dominant. He is still young, he was born in 1987. Any thoughts?

[daglazer]

May 23, 2009 21:52:16 GMT -5 mercury said:

There is talk that Phil Jackson and Andrew Bynum arent getting along. If the Lakers want to trade Bynum does anyone think he'd be a good pick considering he is signed to 2011. Maybe an offer of Lee and Robinson could get it done. Bynum has been inconsistent in his young career, but at times has been very dominant. He is still young, he was born in 1987. Any thoughts?

I would trade Lee for Bynum in a heart beat. Bynum is not 100% from his knee injuries and is a legit 7 footer. He can block shots and rebound and has shown a nice developing low post game. The big risk with Bynum is how long does he last on those knees.

[irish2u2]

May 25, 2009 11:49:55 GMT -5 daglazer said:

May 23, 2009 21:52:16 GMT -5 mercury said:

There is talk that Phil Jackson and Andrew Bynum arent getting along. If the Lakers want to trade Bynum does anyone think he'd be a good pick considering he is signed to 2011. Maybe an offer of Lee and Robinson could get it done. Bynum has been inconsistent in his young career, but at times has been very dominant. He is still young, he was born in 1987. Any thoughts?

I would trade Lee for Bynum in a heart beat. Bynum is not 100% from his knee injuries and is a legit 7 footer. He can block shots and rebound and has shown a nice developing low post game. The big risk with Bynum is how long does he last on those knees.

An interesting proposition but I have the same reservations you do. Bynum has had one healthy year, his second in 2006. In 2005 he missed 36 games, last year he missed 46 and this year he missed 32. He is only 22 years old and he has already missed that many games? What's more he missed those games as a 3rd or 4th wheel on the Lakers averaging no more than 29 minutes a game. What would happen if he got what he wants the most and that is to be a focal point of the team?

I am intrigued but I pass. Reluctantly. If he could stay healthy Bynum has major game at both ends of the court. But if he stayed healthy he would never be on the block either.

[neilverson]

I think Bynum is inked for another 4 years or more. LA already gave him an extension for like 12 or 13 million. I dont think he a FA in 2011.

[dk7th]

May 23, 2009 15:33:05 GMT -5 @greatgates said:

May 22, 2009 19:44:06 GMT -5 @dk7th said:

i would not count on lbj being a knick any longer especially since he is likely to win a title with cleveland this year. what is more important to this guy-- money and exposure or eternal glory by winning multiple titles? let's not kid ourselves.
chandler is a good but not great player who looks to be a third option on a contending team no doubt. but gallinari is the better basketball player and has the tools to be a second option on a contender. look at what turkoglu is doing this year. it has taken him a number of years but he is the real deal and i see gallinari as following in this mold.
but the knicks will still need a first option, and that will mean someone who can defend the position, and create for not only himself but others as well. chandler does not project to be the type of creative player that gallo does, but if he works on his defense and his jump shot then he will be a crucial part of a winning formula but as a third option. and i don't see gallinari as being the type of leader that would equate to being a first option on a contender.
the knicks have two choices before them in the form of two separate scenarios: find a bonafide superstar who can lead, or continue to build a lineup that has solid complete players who defend their position and at the same time make sure the team develops a deep bench.
lebron james is a once in a generation player and it wouold be stupid to hang ones hopes on his coming here.
better to think of how to slowly build a solid but deep team that defends and can wear opponents down .
the rub of course is whether d'antoni can coach such a team. i personally have severe doubts and frankly would not mind if he gets canned since i do not believe tat lebron james is coming to new york in 2010.
of course i would be delighted to be wrong but lebron james is not after money and exposure he is all about winning.
refreshing but not to the advantage of the knickerbockers.

Nice post DK but a couple of issues. If lebron is a "once in a generation player" then it would be stupid NOT to hang ones hopes on his coming here.
If we can somehow obtain a better 2ND option than Mo Williams this season then Lebron should end up with a significantly better team than cleveland by 2011.

Stars seem to win in the playoffs ( old Pistons aside -BTW Chauncey is possibly working on a HOF career) Look at final four teams and some of the teams that injuries cost deep run possibilities(SA, Bos, NO). Mo Williams is a pretty mediocre 2nd fiddle, alot worse that Chauncey, Hedo, or Pau. personally I'm for the do ANYTHING to get a megastar and then do ANYTHING (other than trade the megastar) to get a second star. I do agree that gallo has 2nd star potential but a proven 2nd star and gallo as a bonus hmmm - now we're playin.

well gates tonight is a moment of truth for the cavaliers. they don't have a good enough front line with varejau as a starter-- this guy is 7th or 8th man material. it is like the team in one sense is only as strong as its weakest link, which is not as important as leadership but can often undermine a team over a series. ilgauskas is talented but defensively can't do much, and wallace is a shell of hisformer self. joe smith should be doing more but maybe father time has caught up to him. in order to win you have to have the sort of players that create matchup nightmares and play adequate defense. varejau adds nothing to the matchup equation, nor does wallace. varejau does hustle, and he does play pick and roll defense okay, and he generally irritating, but that's all. the cavs are being exposed and lebron james is getting thrown off his game a bit in the process.

i think brown is going to have to sic lebron on turkoglu and then you pick your poison with lewis, who has really shown me some stuff, and howard who has far to go as a player but is still a dominant presence. fortunately you have 18 fouls among varejau, smith, and wallace. they should use all 18 especially if williams and west are not contributing on offense.

if the cavs lose tonight, lebron james has a hard decision ahead of him, but at the same time knick fans will have more than a glimmer of hope in seeing lebron in a knick uniform. ironically, i think the development of gallinari will be a huge point of consideration, because i see him projecting into a type of turkoglu player for any big time free agent. others here will surely disagree but i don't believe chandler has as much upside as a player, so i see gallinari as a potentially successful 2nd star.