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Post by whensly on Nov 27, 2009 14:53:34 GMT -5
tryptophan comas?
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 27, 2009 15:13:22 GMT -5
Everyone's taking a nap next to Walt Disney until the Knicks show some life or the summer of 2010, whichever happens first.
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Post by mercury on Nov 27, 2009 15:30:44 GMT -5
The board is dead. Everyone is so dissapointed by the collapse of the Knicks. The reason being we thought the Knicks we compete for a playoff spot. Secondly, the younsters arent getting minutes anymore. So who wants to talk about these washed up has been we call a team. However, im sure if the Knicks can get a three game winning streak going, us koolaid drinkers will be making playoff plans.  |
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Post by whensly on Nov 27, 2009 21:46:00 GMT -5
it ain't easy being a knicks, mets, giants fan
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Post by rxmeister on Nov 28, 2009 10:19:22 GMT -5
you forgot the Jets. Mercury made a good point here. Am I supposed to be happy that Al Harrington scored 41 points last night? Is that this year's plan, to make sure that players like Harrington, Hughes and Duhon can get good contracts with new teams next season? I thought it was about developing the young players. Not a single minute for Hill or Douglas last night. Disgraceful job by Mike D'Antoni. I guess it's hard to coach this bunch and not pull a guy when he's playing well (because it's so rare) in favor of a younger player, but does D'Antoni really think this team is going anywhere? It's time to bench the future free agents and start playing the actual future.
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Post by ironman95 on Nov 28, 2009 14:41:56 GMT -5
Although Harrington scored 41 points, which of course is good, he only hit 9 of 13 free throws. Down the stretch he consistently hit one out of two. I would think a supposedly good shooter like Harrington could shoot 75% from the free throw line. If he had done that he would have been 12 for 15 and we win the game. Even 11 for 15 puts us in overtime. I agree that it is time for the new guys to play. Where is Douglas and Hill, and even Darko and Landry. I'd like to see Darko and Hill out there, at the very least the defense would be better. Yes it would be nice to get rid of Curry and Jeffries, but it is time to show the rest of the NBA what the players who will still be here in 2010 can do, good or bad, it's time to find out. I especially don't get playing Jeffries over Hill. Get Eddy back on the court yes, if he can, to try and make the Houston deal. I still say T-Mac and Budinger for Eddy, Mobley and Nate. Gotta give something to get something, Donnie. I might even consider Chandler instead of Nate, if they insisted. Both T-Mac and Budinger can play 2 or 3, both have size Budinger is a deadly shooter if open. Something we could sorely use. T-Mac if he can play gives us a go-to scorer down the stretch, another thing we don't have. Houston gets the big man they desperately need, plus some monetary relief, and a side-show.
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Nov 28, 2009 20:37:03 GMT -5
I think if we wait on Eddie so he can pickup some more value than he has now,but Jeffries had to go soon because it cutting in on Hill getting any burn.If we can't trade him buy him out.
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Post by jbaer10314 on Nov 28, 2009 21:16:37 GMT -5
<< I think if we wait on Eddie so he can pickup some more value than he has now,but Jeffries had to go soon because it cutting in on Hill getting any burn.If we can't trade him buy him out. >>
Walsh doesn't like buyouts, remember?
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Post by rxmeister on Nov 29, 2009 22:05:09 GMT -5
a package including Curry for Tracy McGrady? Really? If Walsh could trade Curry's contract to anyone for anyone, he would have done it yesterday. He would literally trade Curry for Marbury if he could.
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Post by irish2u2 on Nov 30, 2009 12:18:52 GMT -5
I have an excuse. ; )
At this juncture what more could be said? As others astutely pointed out Hill and Douglas are firmly seated on the bench. Eddy Curry is hurt. Again. Gallinari has been AOL for the last few games though he showed up last night. Mike D'Antoni's mystifying decision process has Darko Milicic on the bench and Jared Jefferies on the court when we face Dwight Howard. Is this some secret plan to endear himself to Howard by serving him up sacrificial lambs? Is it possible to run plays for the one guy who shoots treys reasonably well?
The play of the Knicks has been abysmal. I don't see anything aside from the continued good play of David Lee to get excited about right now. I do know we better sign Lee longterm as he is the only player who seems to give a damn consistently.
Do you want to know why this board is dead? We see a glimmer of hope AKA Eddy Curry playing with fire and enthusiasm and then he gets hurt. That is the perfect metaphor for this season so far. ; )
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Post by daglazer on Nov 30, 2009 12:27:25 GMT -5
It was Thanksgiving. I spent my time with my family. That being said, the Knicks are basically unwatchable. They rarely play hard and D'Antoni is not giving the young kids any run. IMHO, Douglas, Hill, Gallinari and Chandler need to get 25-30 minutes of PT per game. Only Al Harrington and David Lee deserve any minutes among the veterans right now. I would add Larry Hughes because he is playing hard, but his PT comes at the expense of Douglas. So, TD gets the minutes.
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Post by irish2u2 on Nov 30, 2009 12:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by axios on Nov 30, 2009 13:41:34 GMT -5
i just watch the Knicks to see how Gallo is progressing. the kid can get 15pts on limited shots by mistake. Other than that, I d like to see Hill and Douglas.
imho- Id trade Chandler, Lee, Nate and everyone else for picks and some avg players who will compete.
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Post by ironman95 on Nov 30, 2009 18:29:31 GMT -5
Where is everyone? Too bummed out to communicate. Too confused to even comment. I think most of us don't get D'Antoni anymore. If we are going to lose the way we have been, at least play the young guys who will be here next year. I agree with Bill, Jeffries and not Darko vs Howard? That makes no sense. Darko should start, even if he only plays 12-15 minutes. Free Darko! Gotta be better than Jeffries. I think because he is more comfortable playing with his back to the basket, the coach thinks he is not right for the system. Play him anyway! Who cares about his offense, we need his defensive presence in the paint. He's tried everything else, why not try that! As for point guard; Donnie blew it with either Jason Williams or Carlos Arroyo. They would be the starter(s) by now. I can understand not drafting Jennings, there wasn't a lot of evidence that he was that good, but signing a point guard, even a second tier one on the cheap for one year, when there was only one point guard on the team is barely forgiveable. It's time to play the young guys, and put Hughes and Jeffries on the bench. Start Darko, Lee, Chandler, Gallinari and Douglas. Bring Nate, Harrington and Hill off the bench. There's and 8-man rotation I can watch and hope they learn and get better. For a 9th man, I'd like to see Landry............I bet he gives more effort and energy than anyone else. As for the expiring contracts/players, I still would like to see Lee come back, and he's the only one. He plays smart, and he never gives up. He runs the court pretty well for a big man, and he knows how to finish. Despite his defensive shortcomings, which I don't think are as bad as everyone else seems to think, playing center(again), out of position for him, he is worth retaining, even if he winds up as a 6th man. As far as trading players for picks, only for a very high pick, we don't need another #8 or so pick. What we need is a top 5 pick. Wall probably goes #1 and Monroe will be in the mix, and then Aldrich and Jordan. Aldrich and Jordan are going to go pretty high up. Either one would help solve the center problem.
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Post by dk7th on Nov 30, 2009 22:36:16 GMT -5
Where is everyone? Too bummed out to communicate. Too confused to even comment. I think most of us don't get D'Antoni anymore. If we are going to lose the way we have been, at least play the young guys who will be here next year. I agree with Bill, Jeffries and not Darko vs Howard? That makes no sense. Darko should start, even if he only plays 12-15 minutes. Free Darko! Gotta be better than Jeffries. I think because he is more comfortable playing with his back to the basket, the coach thinks he is not right for the system. Play him anyway! Who cares about his offense, we need his defensive presence in the paint. He's tried everything else, why not try that! As for point guard; Donnie blew it with either Jason Williams or Carlos Arroyo. They would be the starter(s) by now. I can understand not drafting Jennings, there wasn't a lot of evidence that he was that good, but signing a point guard, even a second tier one on the cheap for one year, when there was only one point guard on the team is barely forgiveable. It's time to play the young guys, and put Hughes and Jeffries on the bench. Start Darko, Lee, Chandler, Gallinari and Douglas. Bring Nate, Harrington and Hill off the bench. There's and 8-man rotation I can watch and hope they learn and get better. For a 9th man, I'd like to see Landry............I bet he gives more effort and energy than anyone else. As for the expiring contracts/players, I still would like to see Lee come back, and he's the only one. He plays smart, and he never gives up. He runs the court pretty well for a big man, and he knows how to finish. Despite his defensive shortcomings, which I don't think are as bad as everyone else seems to think, playing center(again), out of position for him, he is worth retaining, even if he winds up as a 6th man. As far as trading players for picks, only for a very high pick, we don't need another #8 or so pick. What we need is a top 5 pick. Wall probably goes #1 and Monroe will be in the mix, and then Aldrich and Jordan. Aldrich and Jordan are going to go pretty high up. Either one would help solve the center problem. yeah lee is the only one worth retaining but strictly as a bench player/energy guy. the rest of these guys are hopefully gone. speaking of energy guys i disagree with daglazer on gallinari. i have read some of the smarter posters on realgm, one of whom noted that gallinari is more of a rhythm guy, which i definitely agree with. he's the type of player that contributes to cohesion and synergy and suffers in an atmosphere of selfishness and chaos. you're lineup is what i would like to see but who among the starters occupies the shooting guard position? for me it's a no-brainer: it has to be gallinari as counterintuitive that may seem to many. but nobody else is as equipped to occupy that place as far as shooting and playmaking is concerned. what did you have in mind, ironman? |
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