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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 5, 2009 2:03:32 GMT -5
27 World Championships. Gotta love it. Sorry to all Mets fans but sometimes Yankee happens. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-Jason
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Post by irish2u2 on Nov 5, 2009 3:57:16 GMT -5
We should open up a new stadium every year. ; )
Good to see the Yankees finally realized the importance of pitching, mostly YOUNG pitching and a catalyst guy like Texiera. They were fun to watch this year, no huge melodramas or bad press, just good and consistent baseball.
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Post by kgooglog on Nov 5, 2009 7:36:21 GMT -5
Maybe it's me but all this win means to me, and I've been a fan of the Yanks for decades, is that the NBA should just do away with this asinine salary cap. Once again, baseball has proved that it is alive and well despite teams like the Yankees spending whatever the hell they want on players. There is no reason why the NBA continues to punish teams who have spent monies to win and have not done so. The Knicks have been in cap-hell for 10 years, and while the team has had donkeys in the front-office, Dolan has proved one thing. He is willing to spend money. Owners like Donald Sterling treat their team as a pet shop, and couldn't care less if their franchise puts out a winning product, because they have other business which takes precedence.
Those of us who are old enough to have watched this game when fiscal situations were simply an organization issue, also know that the league is so diluted and frankly, lessor players are dampening the game, in my opinion, since teams have been limited to being able to sign one or maybe two "stars" and are left with enough monies to sign D-type players.
The NBA should be an organization that promotes quality, just as MLB does. Get rid of player-option contracts, but allow teams to pay whatever the hell they want for a player. It works for baseball and the only reason why the NBA doesn't follow suit is because of $tern's desire to expand a crap product to places that cannot afford it.
How many people give a hoot about the Grizzlies or the Raptors or the Knicks, if these organizations are stifled by David $tern? Free enterprise, baby!
Let's even up the playing field by doing something different instead of what has crippled this sport for eons. There are owners who want to make their teams better, but the problem remains morons who just want to do the minimum e.g. Donald Duck Sterling and put out mediocrity, despite having the money to do so much more. 30 teams? 60% of them cannot even afford to operate, yet the teams who have the monies, have to finance other team's via this stupid NBA bail-out plan, yet, at the same time, the Knicks have to remain at the low end with respect to getting real talent. The Commish is old enough to remember that when the Knicks do well, the entire league does better.
Instead of acquiring stars or developing young talent, a GM like Walsh has to waste his time thinking about Eddy Curry's contract interfering with an archaic barrier which no longer works, which is "financial parody" among all NBA teams. Those sports folks who I know in North Carolina, do not even care about a pro basketball team, since they have several college programs with better players. Who cares if the Bobcats are in the NBA? No one. Not even the people who live and work in Charlotte.
Oh, how I yearn for the days when there were 18-20 teams in the NBA, and even last place teams won 45 games or so. Playoffs would begin with Knicks versus the Bullets and every series featured great match-ups that are now only the stuff of lore. Every team had a shot at the championship, and while the Celtics, Lakers, or NY would be the teams people couldn't get enough of, fans of all of their teams were filled with passion. Maybe the Buffalo Braves fans weren't, but they had a stretch with McAdoo and Ernie No D!
The league has crippled itself with dictators who only think about how much, not how good.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 5, 2009 17:34:26 GMT -5
Well said Ken. Couldnt have said anything you brought up better. Billionaires finance every team so why is it that teams cant sign whomever they want? Even without a salary cap the Yanks sometimes outspend by hundreds of thousands and still dont win all the time so let us choose whom we want and since MSG among other arenas makes money up in plenty of other ways why cant we spend all of Cablevisions money since they charge their customers' for every nickel and dime.
Why isnt Stern's position an electable on elike the player's union?
Anyway....... Jeter, Posada, Pettite and Mo Rivera doing their thing for the fifth time. Xorry Mets fans, you could be there too but minaya is an ass clown.
-Jason
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Post by kgooglog on Nov 6, 2009 9:58:35 GMT -5
Exactly, Jason....and i didn't mean to not offer the Yankees their well-earned kudos. Yet you even bolstered the thinking that money has absolutely nothing to do with winning titles, for the Yankees have had the highest payroll in MLB and have not won every World Series.
Maybe $tern should watch some baseball and allow teams who have the willingness and passion to spend the money for the fans to watch quality instead of minor league players masquerading around as pros. The NBA has a watered down product, one which prohibts growth and enjoyment for the teams everyone wants to see win.
The Knicks have been in the penalty box for too long due to the gaffes of their management.
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Post by daglazer on Nov 6, 2009 15:13:06 GMT -5
The best solution is to offer the players no cap, but no guaranteed contracts. Players can be cut for any reason in the offseason and during a season, only get that season's pay if they are injured.
That way, teams can rebuild quickly by dumping dead weight players without money issues and the players can maximize their value by signing big contracts up front like the NFL. A team like the Nets can compete by developing young players while the Knicks and the Mavericks can compete by signing free agents to big deals.
The NBAPA might go for this because Lebron could sign a $45M per year contract and every player could earn his true worth once he becomes eligible for free agency.
The owners might go for it because then they can limit their financial damage by being able to fire players who don't produce like Eddy Curry without owing that player another 20 million.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 6, 2009 18:17:58 GMT -5
The best ideas are never ever put in fruition so that fact we are talking about it sanely that means in our lifetime, at least, it wont happen.
For as many problems that the NFL(poor role models for young black men especially) and the MLB( poor message sending to the youth that steroids is ok b/c you get a pat on the back if tell the truth quickly) have, they have great business models for how contracts are made. Like for instance why cant Lebron if he wanted to make what Arod is making?
And how is revenue for MLB more than the NBA when the NBA can make just as much if not more(in fact more) money all over the world with their brand?
How can Stern report losses when we have NBA china, and NBA Europe and Kobe jerseys in Japan and South Africa? Where the hell does all that money go? Was that apart of Russ Graniks retirement package as deputy Commish last year? Seriously, where is all that international money and how can a billionaire truly be broke if the company that owns the team makes way more money in what they do in the first place to buy the team?
The Knicks are less than 3% -4% of Cablevision's revenue I believe last i checked. For the decade of disaster according to Forbes we are the Knicks are worth more than the Celtics, the Lakers and every other franchise in the league by several hundreds of million and we have won nothing since the EARLY 70's. The knicks are like a 69 Camaro. We never go out style and are still worth more than when you last saw us and we have some of the largest contingent of old school fans.
Saying all this to say someone is pocketing the change and as a lawyer DA I wonder is their a way you can research how the revenue legally is distributed between the league and teams and what makes the cap number drop or go up by any measure? You even one of us you is an accountant among us because i just don't get it.
-Jason
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Post by jbaer10314 on Nov 6, 2009 19:52:50 GMT -5
As a Mets fan, I hoped the Yankees and Phillies both lost.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 6, 2009 20:38:41 GMT -5
Hey JBaer how did that work out for you? How could you go out of your way to hate the best. I didnt care for Jordan much cause I loved the Knicks more but a respected him as the best ever. That comment reeks of no respect for the Yanks at all. Give credit where credit is due. Dont be a hater all your life.
You know we are friends Jbaer but damn dont be hater, man.
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Post by jbaer10314 on Nov 6, 2009 20:48:14 GMT -5
Jeez, Jason--take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by daglazer on Nov 7, 2009 10:21:46 GMT -5
The best ideas are never ever put in fruition so that fact we are talking about it sanely that means in our lifetime, at least, it wont happen. For as many problems that the NFL(poor role models for young black men especially) and the MLB( poor message sending to the youth that steroids is ok b/c you get a pat on the back if tell the truth quickly) have, they have great business models for how contracts are made. Like for instance why cant Lebron if he wanted to make what Arod is making? And how is revenue for MLB more than the NBA when the NBA can make just as much if not more(in fact more) money all over the world with their brand? How can Stern report losses when we have NBA china, and NBA Europe and Kobe jerseys in Japan and South Africa? Where the hell does all that money go? Was that apart of Russ Graniks retirement package as deputy Commish last year? Seriously, where is all that international money and how can a billionaire truly be broke if the company that owns the team makes way more money in what they do in the first place to buy the team? The Knicks are less than 3% -4% of Cablevision's revenue I believe last i checked. For the decade of disaster according to Forbes we are the Knicks are worth more than the Celtics, the Lakers and every other franchise in the league by several hundreds of million and we have won nothing since the EARLY 70's. The knicks are like a 69 Camaro. We never go out style and are still worth more than when you last saw us and we have some of the largest contingent of old school fans. Saying all this to say someone is pocketing the change and as a lawyer DA I wonder is their a way you can research how the revenue legally is distributed between the league and teams and what makes the cap number drop or go up by any measure? You even one of us you is an accountant among us because i just don't get it. -Jason Jason, I am afraid that this is more of an accounting issue than a legal one. There are many ways to legally cook ones books to show losses instead of profit by booking expenses over time. The owners can pay themselves large salaries to create losses. The union will likely have access to these numbers. If the union says that the owners are full of it, then believe it. |
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Post by pearl on Nov 7, 2009 11:31:14 GMT -5
Jason:
Lets get 28 in 2010.
Pearl
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Nov 7, 2009 19:21:06 GMT -5
Jason: Lets get 28 in 2010. Pearl I second that motion, Pearl. |
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Post by kgooglog on Nov 10, 2009 8:22:17 GMT -5
The best solution is to offer the players no cap, but no guaranteed contracts. Players can be cut for any reason in the offseason and during a season, only get that season's pay if they are injured. That way, teams can rebuild quickly by dumping dead weight players without money issues and the players can maximize their value by signing big contracts up front like the NFL. A team like the Nets can compete by developing young players while the Knicks and the Mavericks can compete by signing free agents to big deals. The NBAPA might go for this because Lebron could sign a $45M per year contract and every player could earn his true worth once he becomes eligible for free agency. The owners might go for it because then they can limit their financial damage by being able to fire players who don't produce like Eddy Curry without owing that player another 20 million. DA... How come this sensible solution would never get by $tern and his cronies? I really believe this is the way the NBA should operate and I think the fans would see the most competitive athletes in the world. |
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Nov 11, 2009 18:04:40 GMT -5
I'm a Met fan but I root for the yankees when the Mets are out of it.It's nice to see the Yankees show up for Lebron night,Larry Johnson was there too and everyone was letting him know how much we want him here.CC especially was quite open about it,let's hope it works.Also the Yankees made me and my kid money while at Vegas for the playoffs.Congrates to the Yankees.
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