Post by greatgates on Oct 14, 2009 13:14:09 GMT -5
something i wanted to ask some of you guys for awhile but when we were on the AOL i didnt want KT's two cents apart of it So here it goes.
Do u really think that Charlie Ward was a horrible point guard. Yes he made that off color comment about Jews but aside from that he was clutch in most spots and really have just as much passings and driving speed as Duhon does. He seemed quicker than Duhon in hos prime.
I used to see many hate on Charlie Ward and I thought it was Chris Childs who was the garbage PG out of the two. He was a solid pass PG in a Starks and Ewing and Mason and Houston based world. He was what those teams needed at the time i thought.
Even though i put the kabosh on the subject i just created your comment about Charlie Ward made me curious as to why aside from his comment that inflammed the christian/jewish belief system that as a basketball player not many liked him.
I guess i dont understand what he did so bad on the basketball side of things. Thought he served his purpose. Care to elaborate? Anyone?
-Jason
Jason...
I have no problem expressing my dislike for Charlie Ward, as I was one of the more vocal AOL members regarding this PG's lack of creativity, both as a player and as an unwanted Preacher, who was actually needed to be sanctioned by Dave Checketts on his "religion", which was not only revisionistic in its spew, but also was culled from ex-footballer, Reggie White's anti-Semitic writings.
Ward, in my estimation, was the worst PG in the history of the Knicks, despite the team's success during those years. Believe me, I was no fan of Chris Childs, either, but Preacher did everything a PG shouldn't do. He basically dribbled himself into a corner where he was double-teamed, and forced ill-advised passes. He constantly picked up the ball on his dribble. He demonstrated no creativity whatsoever with the ball or his passes, and was as slow as a snail.
While I have forgiven Allan Houston for being a follower of Charlie's religious preoccupation, as a non-religious Jewish person, but respectful of my birth faith and my family's religion, I found his commentary reprehensible, shrouded in hate, and a distraction to the team. More than one Knick player went on record as saying they would simply walk away in order to not hear Ward's gospel, and he was an annoyance.
However, I am doing a disservice by rehashing this nonsense, for I never took Ward, the NBA player, as little more than a third-string player on any other team that would have tolerated his asinine play. NY basically had no offense from this player, and frankly, had NY not had Preacher or Childs, and managed to obtain an upgrade, the Knicks would have been a title team, in my opinion.
Clyde, to my recollection, always cited Ward's offensive designs as basically incorrect on almost every level. Back then, Dolan allowed MSG announcers to not be shills, but to be themselves. Ward did hit clutch shots since his shot was so inconsistent that he could be left alone most of the time. I do not think he was a Knick who did anything positive for the team or the organization, and when Grunfeld resigned this clown, I was mortified. It simply continued the streak of mediocrity that still exists, though I think help is on the way in Toney Douglas and, perhaps Ricky Rubio, and definitely in CP3, come 2011.
Had it been Patrick Ewing who made religious comments which were patently phrased so they would offend, it would have made me angry. However, Ewing is a Hall of Fame pivot, while Ward is just a famed pain in the ass. In my humble opinion, of course.
I hated Charlie's game. He did show some potential driving the ball very early in his career but he basically created nothing. NOTHING. Think Rory sparrow without the creativity.
I admit he was alot better than an Edmund sherrod , who never should have received a paycheck. That's about it. My lasting memories are A) Ward bridging PJ - starting a riot - and ruining our best shot at a title. B) Ward jogging up court while Van Gundy (walk it up Jeff ) was running up the sidelines imploring Chucky to run the break. I didn't like Childs either ( particularly after Clyde labeled him the "abdicator" for volunteering to give up his starting job to Ward) "Abdicator" was classic Clyde 
The lady at Cox Cable knows me so well she said she hoped the Knicks were not so pathetic this year.