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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 25, 2009 20:23:29 GMT -5
To soften a blow of losing whatever you can contemplate if we make a deal sending Jeffries away or just even to have a better trading piece down the road, it should be I believe Walsh's benefit to check out this young guy. He was scheduled to make the qualifying offer of 2.7 mil which the Griz rescinded to make room for whomever. An asset is an asset. He could be had for about the same of even less than half the mid-level for this year or a 2 year with a team option. And yes he is PF but he is free and a decent player no worse than the aforementioned Jared Jeffries. www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60794/20090725/memphis_renounces_qualifying_offer_to_warrick/-Jason |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 25, 2009 23:15:37 GMT -5
Jason
I like Warrick. IMHO, he is better than Jefferies and he would prosper in a system like ours where he can get out on the floor and finish at the rim. He's also a good young man too and a hard worker but mostly I just like his absolutely sick athleticism. memphis made a mistake and we should profit. ; )
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 26, 2009 4:40:57 GMT -5
Now at present this create too much of a glut at PF however don't you think Warrick could play a big C if D'antoni wanted to go small?
I'd hate to see him go to the Celtics, Lakers, Mavs or Cavs. Warrick and Sessions would be a complete and excellent addition to our young core of Gallo, Chandler, Hill, douglas and perhaps Nate and maybe Lee. But Warrick's properity hinges on us getting rid if Curry or Jeffries.
If anything else he is an excellent trade bait if a deal comes up before the deadline. Please Walsh be interested.
-Jason
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 26, 2009 4:54:36 GMT -5
Oh and I wanted to add forget that Tim Thomas crap and go after this kid. I am adding some you tube vids to show the best of from this kid who has a midrange, defensive skills and of course is an active explosive athlete and monster at the basket. Enjoy! Top ten Hakim Warrick(mixture of college at Syracuse and the Griz action, and don't mind the French hip-hop even it sucks, lol): www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFdmo1_2iM0This second mix is my favorite out of the two. Really begs the question as to why the Griz misused this dynamic player. Look for yourself. and the music goes so well ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D: www.youtube.com/watch?v=44604oiH5bw-Jason |
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 26, 2009 7:59:43 GMT -5
I am shocked that the Grizzlies actually had this player signed to a low qualifying offer and than recsinded the offer! I am in agreement with both of you that Donnie needs to ink this guy to a reasonable deal, if only to use him to augment a trade down the road or to use Warrick's freak athleticism to give NY a different look at PF, if David Lee is retained.
Warrick is much better than Jared Jeffries. If Walsh can somehow sign Von Wafer, trade Jeffries for Mike James or trade Jeffries and Nate to Sacramento for the useless, but cap relieving contract of Kenny Thomas, the Jeffries slot opens up for a player who is custom-made for this Knicks team.
Memphis really screwed up on this one. It will be a matter of hours to a few days before an NBA team signs Hakim, and like you said, Jason, I'd hate to see Walsh miss out on a player who can easily sign with the teams you mentioned...
This is a gift to whoever acts the fastest. I think Warrick is that type of guy who can probably play both forward positions and even pivot, in a small, running line-up.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 26, 2009 8:19:51 GMT -5
Hakim "The Helicopter" Warrick. Memphis must have partied more than I did last night. How on Earth do you just let a guy like this go?
I am in shock. If Walsh can get Sessions to sign for 1/2 of the MLE and give him 5 years, and obtain Warrick for the other 1/2, we are sitting pretty...we have more trading chips and man, can you imagine Boozer and Warrick on your front-line, although I think Harrington still would start. I see Chandler, Warrick, and Gallo fitting like a glove to a hand...
Walsh is apparently very close in signing Von Wafer to the veteran bi-annual $1.25 million exception for one year.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 26, 2009 8:43:34 GMT -5
Tim Thomas vs. Hakim Warrick. I can just see Tiny Tim lying on the court after getting posterized by Warrick...Walsh must call Hakim NOW and sign him. Warrick is also an insurance policy if David Lee's agent plays hardball with NY.
I can see a second unit of J-Hill at center, Hakim at PF, Gallo at SF, Von Wafer at SG, and Nate at the PG. I put Gallo on the second unit only because he can provide those high-post passes to "The Helicopter" for those rim-racking dunks. I also wouldn't mind keeping Lee if he agrees to a multi-year deal at $6 million per, although I am equally amenable to trading him straight up for Carlos Boozer.
Use the Mobley contract, along with Curry to get Houston to bite at the T-Mac package. Houston just signed some stiff to be a pretend NBA center--they still need the inside scoring skill-set of Curry as well as the monetary relief that Mobley's contract will provide. We save $12,000,000 for the summer of 2010.
Trade Jeffries to Washington for guard Mike James or do a Nate/Jeffries deal to Sacramento. Both moves get rid of Jared's salary for 2010.
Sign Sessions.
If the Knicks can get rid of $19,000,000 of contractual garbage in exiling Eddy and Jeffries, we are looking at LeBron plus (insert your favorite second choice of elitism). Or, we wait for Chris Paul. By 2012, we will have an NBA title contender.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 26, 2009 9:30:50 GMT -5
I'd like to know why is Walsh waiting for the market to be set for David. It already is. every team that wanted him has passed him by. Either publicly craft a deal for Utah to say yes or no or offer the 6 mil one year qualifier. What is really the hold up at this point in the summer where training camp starts shortly and we have no contract insurance for David Lee, no contract offer for nate which i thought would have been easy to offer the qualifying to him as Nate has said he has no other choice but to return.
Finally i hear the Nets are already knocking down Warrick's door and it would piss me off to no end if the Nets got to add Warrick while we were stuck being enamored(the coach and the GM really) with Jared Jeffries. Duhon can't be it at PG. Not this year. Douglas and Nate are fine but the duhon experiement really didnt impress anyone nor scare any other team as well.
Give me young fresh and experienced. Hungry and skilled is another one. Warrick can hit a mid range and has amare-esque finishing moves and can block shots voilently. jeffries is half the man Warrick is. Warrick correct me if I'm wrong is only 24. This is a team if you add Sessions at half, or more than half or the whole midlevel that can grow with Lebron or whomever.
We acted so fast to trade Crawford and Z-bo less than 10 games into the season after these men went to camp and preseason and got hyped about a winning streak peaking confidence. Should we as fans wait until the 10th game in reg season for more pieces to be added. I'm not asking for knee jerk deals. But Chandler, Gallo, Douglas, Hill, Curry and Jeffries alone is not going to entice a major player to leave their glorified team to come over with no promising point guard and guys that Lebron Wade and Bosh easily school every night.
Give me Warrick, Wafer and Sessions and for what they put on the court plus maybe one year of Nate and Lee(or Boozer for Lee). Get rid of Eddy and mobley's roster spot in the Houston deal that both teams need coupled with the fact Washington would love Jeffries back for another swingman who is going to expire in Mike James, and honestly why couldn't we be a 4th/5th seed realistically behind Boston, Cleveland, Orlando and Detroit and maybe Miami if they get Odom?
I need to get my degree in sports management and change the way these execs do things in NY especially but more specifically the Knicks. We dont need unexpected and high risk mid season deals to disrupt chemistry and this season has to be at its highest improvement with the cheapest yet best players available.
Sessions and Warrick can come cheap and are out there and would add to a young core who needs MORE promise. I am a little frustrated unless next week Walsh gives me a reason to shut up about his inability to act while good prospects are out there.
I havent given up on Walsh by any means but come on already. I can't eb the only one who's anxious right now. And not Isiah Thomas do a deal to do it anxious but common sense hello these players can be had and can start playing with our players in the summer RIGHT NOW anxious. I want our team to have swagger. this decade is over almost thank God and a resurgence is on the rise. I have to believe it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!
-Jason
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 26, 2009 10:32:58 GMT -5
Jason...
Warrick is 27 years old. Jeffries is actually younger, but just plays like an old man.
I am extremely anxious about Hakim drawing interest from the Nets. I would be extremely pissed if New Jersey pulled the trigger and got Warrick for little more than the $3,000,000 qualifying offer Memphis initially gave and then rescinded.
I also read that the Clippers, who were perceived as the Knicks only serious competition for Ramon Sessions other than the Milwaukee Bucks, are now no longer being considered by Sessions' camp as a team who he wants to play for, considering that Sabastian Telflair would be, in all probability, the starting point guard. Sessions wants to start, and he should have that oportunity. NY is the only team that can offer Ramon the starting PG position.
It would appear that Walsh did do the right thing with respect to managing the Sessions situation. According to what I read, LA was preparing to offer Sessions $4,000,000 a year and that they had little fear that the Bucks would match. I think Walsh will strike now, and tender an offer to Ramon in the $4.5 per year range and be told that the starting PG position is his to lose or keep.
If NY can somehow combine the vet's exception and whatever is left of the MLE (after Sessions), perhaps NY can lure Hakim Warrick here.
I completely agree with you that adding Sessions and Warrick would add to an already promising core of players, which we can now include Nate Robinson, who is reportedly going to sign a one year $5,000,000 deal with NY early next week...
BTW, I am also anxious about how the FA period appears to be going for NY, but we need to remember that Donnie Walsh is also looking to summer 2010 and doesn't want to compromise any of our hopes. In the end, I think we all will be very happy with what the Knicks will look like this year and, of course, in the fall of 2010.
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