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Post by kgooglog on Jul 21, 2009 9:17:52 GMT -5
Yesterday, I briefly mentioned that Milwaukee Sportswriter, Gery Woelfel "twittered" that the Knicks plan to land Ramon Sessions with the mild-level exception by Tuesday, at the latest. Today's NY Post confirmed that "(Donnie) Walsh is on the verge of making (Ramon) Sessions a long-term, mid-level offer for roughly $26 million, the player's agent told The Post yesterday. Further, Ramon's agent, 'Chubby' Wells said the Knicks appeared agreeable to giving Sessions four years at the mid-level, which would total about $26.5 million. Wells said he hoped to sign an offer sheet with a team by today or tomorrow.
"They've gotten real serious," Wells said of the Knicks.<source The NY Post 7/21/09>
Interestingly enough, The NY Daily News had an article today, which focused on Andre Miller and his meeting with Knick brass. Frank Isola (NY Daily News) wrote that free agent Andre Miller, who remains unsigned, met with Knicks president Donnie Walsh Monday at the team's training facility in Greenburgh. According to a Knicks source, the meeting came one day after Miller had a brief face-to-face meeting with D'Antoni in Las Vegas.
Further, Isola notes that the Knicks can only offer Miller their mid-level exception, worth approximately $5.8 million, and the veteran point guard is looking for a contract that will pay him close to $8 million annually. The Knicks could come close to Miller's asking price if they were to work out a sign-and-trade with Philadelphia. That deal would likely have to include Chris Duhon. However, here’s where I become quite confused. Two different news sources, one who is in the Buck’s camp and the other in the Knicks camp, not only did not mention this meeting with Andre Miller, but the following snip is what Isola wrote about Sessions:
If the Knicks can't finalize a deal for Miller, their other option is Milwaukee restricted free agent Ramon Sessions. The Knicks had conversations with Sessions' representative yesterday but no formal offer was made. <source The New York Daily News 7/21/09>
Obviously, there has been a long-standing and bitter rivalry between The Daily News and The New York Post, yet The Post’s article seems to be more solid, congruent with the statements of Milwaukee Bucks NBA mogul, Gery Woelfel, and, most importantly Sessions’ agent, ’Chubby’ Wells. The Post cites figures and years while The News seems shrouded in either ignorance or secrecy regarding what the Knicks direction seems to be.
Based on the two tabloids’ report, I am actually taking The New York Post’s account over The New York Daily News’ report.
Comments? Feedback? Money?
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 21, 2009 10:43:05 GMT -5
Ken
The check is in the mail. ; )
I'm a fan of neither the News or the Post so I won't pick a favorite. I know Walsh is talking to Miller but I still believe ultimately Sessions is a better fit and cheaper too. We should know more in the next day or two.
Still no word on Lee though. Walsh does know how to multi-task, right? ; )
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Jul 21, 2009 17:26:18 GMT -5
I would like to get Miller becaue IMO it gives us a bettter chance to get Rubio.I would be happy with Rubio over Sessions even though Sessions has good future trade value if we get him cheap.To me getting Rubio should be our main goal for significant improvement.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 21, 2009 18:17:35 GMT -5
Rene
I am firmly in the "anti" Miller camp though he is a good player and a better person. He's also 33 and expensive. If indeed we do get Rubio then Sessions and Toney Douglas can fight it out for the backup role with the loser getting traded or released.
Of course there is a chance Douglas or Sessions beats out Ricky too. ; ) All things are possible in the NBA. ; )
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 21, 2009 18:19:52 GMT -5
I have boycotted the Post on two different occasions due to their lack of candor and openly racist views, so i wouldnt what theey wrote or didnt however i get whatever is filtered from Newsday, realgm and hoopshype.com
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Post by whensly on Jul 21, 2009 18:38:02 GMT -5
I would NEVER buy the Post, it's a hideous load of Bull and hate dressed up like it might be News. That said, I do like breezing their sports section and media coverage...other than that "a pox on murdick" makes james dolan look like a mensch.
back to hoops..if sessions signs our offer still no guarantee, let's hope it makes GM Kahn In Minnie think he's losing his best dance partner for Rubio.
I want Rubio, gamble or not, I wish Walsh would find a way.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 21, 2009 21:53:47 GMT -5
I read the Post online all the time. Without this being a huge KTBlack issue and fully recognizing I am not as sensitized to the issue and without too much research into specifics, how are they racist?
I seriously want to know.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 22, 2009 2:12:57 GMT -5
I read the Post online all the time. Without this being a huge KTBlack issue and fully recognizing I am not as sensitized to the issue and without too much research into specifics, how are they racist? I seriously want to know. I would like to know as well, since the only offensive material I have seen, are Berman's ridiculous trade rumors.
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Jul 22, 2009 4:14:19 GMT -5
All papers have bad writers and good writers it's more the colunmnist than the paper.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 22, 2009 6:32:13 GMT -5
First I'd like to say I am not the type of person to throw any such claims or adjectives describing peoples or interests without facts to support.
I also used to read the sports sections of the post and look over at Berman's article even though he's been easily one of the worst sportwriters around. i cant stand Vecsey and never will basically because he tries to turn chicken shit out of shit and call it news with fancy quotes and corny one liners and little new news you didnt already hear the week before.
With all that said, you may or may not remember the picture depicting a gorilla or ape when describing now President Obama when the overtures reeked of a major paper, a reublican one at that, showing a popular African American as a monkey with a turban based on his name and his color. Evgeryone knows although everyone would rather not remember that in the first few hundred years of this countries' inception blacks used to be depicted as animals especially monkeys. So even if you dont like his views why would you show this and incite rage in your readers in 2008 when we should be way beyond this behavior.
Then recently when Michael Jackson died a few weeks back, the caption read Wacko Jacko finally gone and in the article, it was said within the second day of his death, within one of the front page columns, "why do blacks herald this freak and call him legend"? Now I'm thinking isnt his children out there still grieving and while he was eccentric and often accused of things he was never guilty of(I should note the then 13 y/o boy who's parents accused Mike of molestation, recently said in 2008, some 6 years later that Mike really didnt do anything and I dare anyone to google this to prove my mentioning this).
So my thing is that when it comes to things which include people of color that they have no direct knowledge of it appears paper sales versus honest lack of candor is what that right wing paper rather print than a mix of different views filling a paper with more than the same opinion. I am not naive to think this is perfect world nor am I naive to pull a race card when things dont sound like I like them to, put the POST is the worst and I havent even touched the subject of non racial issues that is wrong with that specific tabloid.
These are two exampless to support my case for the Post being racially unethical when the times they were not universally funny and or clever and at least if your going to be insensitive make me laugh or smile or smirk. Dave Chapelle and George Carlin learned that. And the post is just a printed oxymoron, an unfunny comedy.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Jul 22, 2009 6:41:04 GMT -5
oh and back to the Knicks. Sorry Ramon Sessions. Here's to hoping that the Bucks dont match..
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Post by kman414 on Jul 22, 2009 8:40:11 GMT -5
Jason, the NY Post in its present state is a disgrace to journalism. Once an extremely liberal newspaper under the ownership of Dorothy Schiff, it now reeks under the ownership of foreigner Rupert Murdoch. Unfortunately for me I've been addicted to the Post for over fifty years. Today the paper has no more credibility than the Enquirer. It's conservative viewpoint is obscured by it's hypocritical news section. On the editorial pages the Post talks about conservative values and morality. Yet, in the early days of the internet, it was the Post that wrote a roadmap to porno sites for those who couldn't find them. Its gone downhill ever since. Look at Page Six. It has writers like Andrea Peyser who got her start outting Met ballplayers who cheated on their wives during Pt St. Lucie spring training. Yet I have to read it. I guess it's like rubbernecking at an accident scene. Oh and Jason...here's another piece of Post trivia. Back in the days when the paper was liberal in viewpoint, they hired a Reublican conservative to write a column. That columnist was Jackie Robinson. No wonder I can't stop reading this paper.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 22, 2009 10:40:34 GMT -5
For all interested I'd like to move the topic of racism, NY Post, Michael Jackson, freedom of the press, etc. to the General Board. I'll start a topic there after posting this so we can continue the discussion but leave basketball matters where they belong and general commentary where it belongs.
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Post by whensly on Jul 22, 2009 11:07:51 GMT -5
Post is not just racist, it hate - mongers, lights fires and conjures up untrue stories, makes stories doesn't report them.
Google "Why I hate the NY Post" or NY POST + disrespectful and I am sure you can spend the rest of your days gagging.
There have been SO many times I have just seen the cover and gagged in horror that something calling itself a newspaper would publish such porno (not sexy porno but the pornography of lies) that I have forgotten most on purpose.
It's not that the Post is Neo-con, that would be ok but it's sleaze. Yes there are some decent writers but the NEWS part of the paper is closer to toilet paper than information.
GET RUBIO...damn the torpedos
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Post by whensly on Jul 22, 2009 11:12:08 GMT -5
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