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Post by whensly on Jul 10, 2009 12:11:20 GMT -5
Having heard claims that Eddie Curry has dropped nearly 50 lbs,
the Knicks have summoned him to Vegas to work out with the team
and take a look at their big-boy. (one of their big boys..is snaks still on contract?)
But when they say "nearly lost 50 lbs" does that mean
Really Lost 5?
or,
does 650 minus 50 equal..?
will be interesting to see if Curry is confused with Louis Orr next week
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Post by ReneNYG1 on Jul 10, 2009 12:19:11 GMT -5
He's going to Vegas ,the staff ordererd him to Vegas ,my guess is they don't believe it either and want to know where they stand.Most of us don't want to give him another chance,I'm on that bandwagon and can't wait to trade him before he starts eating those bugers Kenny caught him with.LOL
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Post by will1682 on Jul 10, 2009 13:34:44 GMT -5
Having heard claims that Eddie Curry has dropped nearly 50 lbs, the Knicks have summoned him to Vegas to work out with the team and take a look at their big-boy. (one of their big boys..is snaks still on contract?) When asking about Snaks, I assume your referring to Jerome James? He was part of the Larry Hughes deal last February and went to Chicago. I know, easy to miss when he was practically a non-existent factor during his time with us. |
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 10, 2009 14:59:11 GMT -5
He's going to Vegas ,the staff ordererd him to Vegas ,my guess is they don't believe it either and want to know where they stand.Most of us don't want to give him another chance,I'm on that bandwagon and can't wait to trade him before he starts eating those bugers Kenny caught him with.LOL Rene... It's hard for Eddy to hide anything, being that he is the only NBA player in history to be allowed to wear a bra during his 11 minutes and 38 second season appearances. I'll believe Eddy's participation in the Vegas games when I see it. Curry, at this point in time, is non-factor as a Knick--The only loss which would benefit the organization is shedding his contract this year so we can sign players who are human beings, motivated human beings, inspired human beings who didn't eat their lucrative careers away and steal money from their employer. Eddy Curry's "ass" ets include: Eating a case full of Twinkies Misusing the legal system for his own financial gain Lying about nearly everything Threatening to destroy a basketball team through the virtue of his "player option" contract. Not paying his bills That said, I cannot wait to see him waddle like a sea lion in Vegas. It sort of gives me a thrill like reality TV, only the sad reality is that a 26 year old talented offensive pivot pisses his life away and pays no consequences--The Knicks do. Curry needs to be suspended for the entire year if he weighs more than a beluga whale come training camp. 6 Jerome James' can fit inside Eddy's blue #34 dress. The Knicks should simply waive him and relinquish the responsibility of having the libelous, fat Brontosaurus on their team. |
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Post by whensly on Jul 10, 2009 15:55:08 GMT -5
I am rooting for Curry bigtime.
a. if he comes back and is in shape he can help
b. if he comes back in shape and helps, then he will have trade value.
B is the best scenario..we should all root for his success,
either way we will benefit and we need to benefit.
If Eddie Munster Cheese gets reinjured or has more trouble, then we saddled with him and his tract for another 2 seasons..it's in all our interests to see Eddie become a star, or at least good.
ps; I saw Jerome James next to Curry many times last season..James is a bigger man, lesser talent, but another waste of great potential due to White Castle Syndrome, General Tso's itis, French Fry Fever, Dominoes Dimensia, Col Sanders Psychosis.
I am sure most of us have had a bout or two of these.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 10, 2009 20:45:34 GMT -5
I am rooting for Curry bigtime. a. if he comes back and is in shape he can help b. if he comes back in shape and helps, then he will have trade value. B is the best scenario..we should all root for his success, either way we will benefit and we need to benefit. If Eddie Munster Cheese gets reinjured or has more trouble, then we saddled with him and his tract for another 2 seasons..it's in all our interests to see Eddie become a star, or at least good. ps; I saw Jerome James next to Curry many times last season..James is a bigger man, lesser talent, but another waste of great potential due to White Castle Syndrome, General Tso's itis, French Fry Fever, Dominoes Dimensia, Col Sanders Psychosis. I am sure most of us have had a bout or two of these. Most of us don't make $12,000,000 a year playing professional basketball and can keep our weight off if our livelihood depended on it. The article also spoke about Eddy's "struggle" to play in Madison Square Garden and face the well-deserved jeers for his non-contribution to the season. I read the Newsday article and nearly laughed thinking that Curry and his "people" are claiming that Eddy lost 50 pounds. Here is a guy who appeared to weigh close 400 pounds when the season ended. Two months later, he lost 50 pounds? Yeah, and I am LeBron James. BTW, Snacks looks like a stringbean next to Curry. Assuming Curry did lose the weight, why the hell is NY not allowing Eddy to actually play against NBA Players? Also, why does the headline in Newsday say that Eddy was "ordered" to go to Vegas? Once again, there is little to no incentive for Curry to voluntarily play basketball. He is guaranteed to make close to $23,000,000 for the next 2 years. I am rooting for the Knicks to find a way to get out of this mess. Curry is a disgrace to all professional sports and the Knicks should really begin the buyout process after they see that the only thing Eddy lost was his freedom to eat sea mammals on a regular basis. |
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Post by whensly on Jul 10, 2009 22:07:12 GMT -5
ken a buyout does not help our cap sitch or our team.
Curry coming back strong does one every front.
From your perspective of hating on him,
if he plays well he is trade bait for cap relief a helpful player or maybe for a draft pick,
or could take his player option and opt out of NY
.
If he gets bought out (that's not happening) he goes away but we are hamstrung by his salary
for another 2 seasons.
hate the guy all you want but you should be rooting for him to emerge as an allstar.
ps; did you ever see JJ Snacks next to Eddie in real life?
I did, Snax was bigger
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Post by kman414 on Jul 10, 2009 23:11:03 GMT -5
Eddy Curry is a very sad case. None of us know what is going on inside his head. If in fact anything is. But to earn such a huge salary and to be broke and have his house in foreclosure leads me to believe that his problems go way beyond basketball. Hopefully the team can get him some psychological help, financial guidance, as well as physical help. The Curry we saw scoring 25ppg may have been a mirage, but if he could be reincarnated then he could help us big time on the court or by being tradebait. Would anyone else like some KoolAid? Now let me go back to my Met suffering. I don't remember what it's like to root for a winner.
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Post by whensly on Jul 11, 2009 15:44:12 GMT -5
Curry scoring 20+pts a night was not a mirage,
it was because the offense was geared to get him the ball
make him the "center-piece" of our team. he does not play well
without the ball, so i think Brown and Zeke both tried to build his
confidence and value by going to his strengths which is his post game.
I am not espousing the knicks make him the center of our offense
again, but It might be a good way to up his confidence and market value.
I remember Curry as a Bull coming to the Garden and doing serious damage
to the knicks..Walsh said the same thing about Curry vs the Pacers..
our disappointment in the guy does not mirror what the rest of the league thinks
he just has to get in shape-health and get out there and impress
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 12, 2009 6:53:16 GMT -5
ken a buyout does not help our cap sitch or our team. Curry coming back strong does one every front. From your perspective of hating on him, if he plays well he is trade bait for cap relief a helpful player or maybe for a draft pick, or could take his player option and opt out of NY . If he gets bought out (that's not happening) he goes away but we are hamstrung by his salary for another 2 seasons. hate the guy all you want but you should be rooting for him to emerge as an allstar. ps; did you ever see JJ Snacks next to Eddie in real life? I did, Snax was bigger Mouse... A buyout does help the Knicks as only 34% of the buyout figure counts against the cap. Simply put, if the Knicks bought Curry out of his deal for a total of $10,000,000, the buyout figure would be divided by 2, $5,000,000 for this year, and $5,000,000 for next season. The Knicks would have to pay Curry the buyout figure, but only 34% of the buyout figure of $5,000,000 counts against the entire Knicks salary cap, roughly $1.5 million. That is a huge savings if we use that hypothetical figure. The above information is culled directly from the CBA. Curry would never opt out of his contract unless Walsh offers him the buyout and Eddy agrees to a figure. He may be in such dire financial straits that he may be receptive to a buyout, which would then allow the Knicks to simply waive him. This guy has more baggage than an airport and I have no faith in him being in NBA playing condition, especially with the pressure of having to save his foreclosing home and his pending lawsuits. I've seen the two slothful players next to each other on TV and to be honest, both have the same work ethic, motivation, and desire. The fact that both players were out of shape, lazy fat slobs, makes little difference to me. Both were miserable failures of the "Me" generation, and were, of course, rewarded for their lack of enthusiasm, not playing, and having player option contracts. I don't hate Eddy Curry. I loath his attitude, work ethic, irresponsibility, disregard for his team mates and organization, and lack of drive. Isn't amazing that the biggest news concerning the Knicks off season will be yet another Eddy Curry "promise" to his employer to be in NBA playing shape? |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 12, 2009 10:25:11 GMT -5
I'm no fan of Eddy Curry's work ethic, professionalism or attitude either but like Mouse I want something back for Eddy besides just cap relief. I still believe he has NBA talent especially scoring in the low post. His main basketball issues of defense and rebounding are directly related to his conditioning. A physically ready Eddy Curry is going to be an asset for somebody and as such he becomes an asset.
Donnie Walsh has taken a hard line with Curry. He won't be given PT just because he is "healthy" this year. He must be in shape and prepared to play the type of game that D'Antoni employs. I applaud Walsh because in the end he is trying to make Eddy Curry marketable again. To me the best possible solution with Eddy Curry is to trade him for an expiring 2010 contract and either a promising young player or a draft pick. If Walsh pulls that off he is NBA Executive of the Year and I still firmly believe he might pull it off. Holding Eddy accountable is the first step. By making him come to Las Vegas and show the Knicks he has lost weight and is in better shape Donnie Walsh shows the most basic premise all good parents learn.
Results trumps promises.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 13, 2009 7:06:50 GMT -5
I just scanned all of the major NY papers and all of the Knick beat writers are reporting that Eddy Curry has, in fact, made considerable progress in his weight loss and is starting to resemble the player who avearged 19.7 PPG and 7 RPG in the one season he was being considered for the all-star team as a reserve.
Eddy went through all of the workout drills, ran the court, and vowed he would come back and be a dominating force this season. Donnie Walsh seems to be his biggest fan, which may be the team president's way of garnering interest in Curry for trade value, but I definitely believe that Walsh is behind Curry and wants the 26 year old to succeed in his career as well as in a Knick uniform.
Curry has added muscle and shed a lot of blubber in a realitively short period of time. More importantly, Eddy may have finally "got" it that the last chance is now.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 13, 2009 11:19:39 GMT -5
Eddy apparently lost 30lbs and not 50lbs. It's still a considerable amount of progress for anyone (I know because I just started my post vacation diet today ; ) but in Eddy's case it's just the tip of the iceberg. Literally. ; )
If I had to guess what he weighed the last time I saw him I would say 325lbs. If accurate that means he is just below 300lbs now. In this system his playing weight should be around 270-275 so he still has a ways to go. Eddy also needs to work on his conditioning because this isn't a Larry Brown team any more.
I'm hesitant to applaud Eddy Curry much for doing what he is being paid 10 million a year to do but I am mildly optimistic he will continue to drop weight and be closer to that player we saw a couple of years ago and worth something on the trade market.
Kudos to Donnie Walsh for holding Curry accountable while at the same time recognizing the fragility of his confidence and taking measures to publicly bolster it.
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Post by neilverson on Jul 14, 2009 12:36:33 GMT -5
Curry will not play in the games, he's just gonna practice with the team and workout. I think the team announced that from the get go.
Also I heard rumors Curry was more like 350 back in May (actually more). D'antoni was quoted saying he wants Eddy down to 290 for gametime but he'll accept 300. I think this means he's still far away enough away from 300 to still be concerned as coaches and fans even after losing the 30 lbs. But I'm rooting for him too.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 14, 2009 13:13:11 GMT -5
Bill and Neil...
I have decided to root for Eddy as well, and not only because of the value of trading him. If Curry continues on the intense work-out and nutrition regimen he is on, he will be a better player for NY if his hard work does pay off.
Eddy Curry was actually playing at 360 pounds when we all saw him in May. As I posted in another thread, NY Newsday reported Curry's current weight at 328 pounds. Curry's trainer said that Curry will never weigh 285, but realistically can get down to 315 or 310. I never believed Curry weighed 285 and that was a facitious number the Bulls gave him when he first entered the NBA.
The nutrition and fitness plan seems to be a very good one, from what I read. Curry's trainer remarked that the key is in reducing Eddy's body fat to body muscle ratio. I think that if Eddy sticks to this plan, he may even end up being a better NBA player than ever seen.
The weight number is one thing. Conditioning is another. All I want from Curry is to stick with what his trainer and nutritionist have directed him to do. As a result, his game and life will reap enormous benefit.
Go Eddy!
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