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Post by axios on May 10, 2022 8:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by daglazer on May 11, 2022 21:27:39 GMT -5
No. I don't want Simmons, he is damaged goods.
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Post by ignitowsky on May 13, 2022 20:21:24 GMT -5
No. I don't want Simmons, he is damaged goods.
Damaged goods and can't shoot the 3 |
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Post by irish2u2 on May 14, 2022 14:51:15 GMT -5
No. I don't want Simmons, he is damaged goods.
Damaged goods and can't shoot the 3
I go back to this early indicator of Ben Simmons. His LSU teammates and the coaching staff were actually happy he turned pro early. Despite the surgery I still sense Simmons just didn't want to play basketball. I also sense at the first sign of adversity, struggle or criticism Simmons will bail. No thanks. |
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Post by axios on May 17, 2022 7:59:20 GMT -5
His time is running out, someone needs to rehabilitate him and I'd take the chance.
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Post by greatgates36 on May 24, 2022 6:06:10 GMT -5
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Post by greatgates36 on May 24, 2022 6:26:28 GMT -5
We'd lose shooting but gain super speed. He'd make Toppin and Fornier much much better. There would be teams where he could play some point center. My o my. Like Axios, I'd do this immediately but I doubt the Rims would. But if they did Randle would be tremendous 3rd option (on offense)
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Post by irish2u2 on May 28, 2022 14:16:02 GMT -5
We'd lose shooting but gain super speed. He'd make Toppin and Fornier much much better. There would be teams where he could play some point center. My o my. Like Axios, I'd do this immediately but I doubt the Rims would. But if they did Randle would be tremendous 3rd option (on offense)
A cancer on and off the court.
Let me put it succinctly. Ben Simmons makes Kyrie Irving and Trevor Bauer look like Ernie Banks in comparison. There is no more selfish and divisive player in sports. I am so beyond pleased BOTH Simmons and Irving are on the Nets.  |
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Post by greatgates36 on Jun 3, 2022 4:08:51 GMT -5
We'd lose shooting but gain super speed. He'd make Toppin and Fornier much much better. There would be teams where he could play some point center. My o my. Like Axios, I'd do this immediately but I doubt the Rims would. But if they did Randle would be tremendous 3rd option (on offense)
A cancer on and off the court.
Let me put it succinctly. Ben Simmons makes Kyrie Irving and Trevor Bauer look like Ernie Banks in comparison. There is no more selfish and divisive player in sports. I am so beyond pleased BOTH Simmons and Irving are on the Nets. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 4, 2022 22:26:51 GMT -5
Here is what the Knicks will gain if they trade for Ben Simmons.
A cancer on and off the court.
Let me put it succinctly. Ben Simmons makes Kyrie Irving and Trevor Bauer look like Ernie Banks in comparison. There is no more selfish and divisive player in sports. I am so beyond pleased BOTH Simmons and Irving are on the Nets.
It would be like sticking a frozen turkey in a deep fat fryer.  |
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Post by greatgates36 on Jun 5, 2022 4:50:59 GMT -5
We'd also gain talent. Simmons is much better than anyone we have. You are right there is certainly risk. But we have to get real talent. Of course we could wait for a free agent like Luka to come. Like KD did Or like Giannis did. Or like LeBron did.To me the risk of that deal mentioned is minimal. BTW I expect the Rims to at least get to the coference finals next season if they have the same top 5 or 6 players. Hopefully I'm wrong.
It would be like sticking a frozen turkey in a deep fat fryer. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jun 5, 2022 22:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by trendsetta on Jun 6, 2022 10:46:05 GMT -5
Ben Simmons ranked 88th in NBA Real +/- his rookie year.
Second year he was 77th.
Third year he was 83rd.
Fourth year he vaulted to 17th.
Can't begrudge him his defensive ability nor his passing.
And yet:
One wonders what kind of offense needs to be developed for a guy who can't shoot from the field and is terrible at free throws. We saw that in Philadelphia he became a liability in the playoffs where free throw shooting is inarguably paramount.
He clearly has psychological issues and has a balky back. And he seems quite unlikeable to boot. This is NYC.
He turns 26 this summer. Kind of late in the day to start developing his game, which as we all know he refused to do even before the debacle of the last two years. That said, it'd be good for him if he sought out Pau or KG for tutelage. Keep everything midrange and wrist flippy. Might even help him with free throws.
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Post by axios on Jun 6, 2022 16:56:52 GMT -5
Agree with most of all what you are saying but…… he’s a better talent than anyone on our team. Get rid of Randle, build up his value and his contract is less. That’s a win, even if he doesn’t play.
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Post by trendsetta on Jun 6, 2022 17:22:28 GMT -5
Agree with most of all what you are saying but…… he’s a better talent than anyone on our team. Get rid of Randle, build up his value and his contract is less. That’s a win, even if he doesn’t play. Who is going to coach him up? Thibs doesn't have the ability to develop players. And Simmons has already imploded. Is there anyone willing to come to NYC to reprogram him? Anyone on the Nyets capable? Or the Knicks... God help us? I think he, Simmons, should pay big bucks to have Garnett, Pau, or Duncan develop his game. But it has to be *his* money that he spends, not the team's. He has a shit-ton of FU money at this point, no doubt-- that can fuck with your head, as we all know. And yet the dude is only steps away from playing in China LOL. Meantime fuck him and his advisors. And fuck the Nyets, especially KD and Irving. And one more gratuitous "fuck" just because I hate Dolan. Here's an informative read, may put things in perspective: thesixersense.com/2021/08/25/sixers-assigning-blame-ben-simmons-quagmire/ |
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