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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 21:13:17 GMT -5
In hand. O no.
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Post by irish2u2 on Feb 12, 2021 22:35:13 GMT -5
I wonder what Ken’s favorite player Chris Dudley is doing these days. 😎
Too bad for Mitch but fractures heal faster than breaks. Probably 4-6 weeks. In the meantime I think the Knicks need another big.
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Post by rxmeister on Feb 13, 2021 7:44:43 GMT -5
I guess this is why they signed Taj Gibson last month, although I’m hoping it leads to more Julius and Obi together. Obi is picking it up lately and has had immediate chemistry with Derrick Rose as had IQ.
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 13, 2021 11:50:42 GMT -5
That's a big blow to our cause. Mitch's floor impact has been tops on the team for some time. He's not going to impress with stats. Now we shall see what Thibs and his staff come up with. Outside of Noel, Gibson isn't good for any more than 12-15 minutes a night, so that may well mean that Randle plays center and Toppin gets more time. I'm concerned about Toppin. Looks like a tweener to me... beware the tweener. Playing a smaller lineup may work, and I wonder how the Bullock/Burkes platooning will net out over the next 25-30 games. I lean in the direction of Burkes-- better floor impact overall. I like scrappy players. If Thibs can maintain a .450 pace that would be impressive.
As to last night's game, a nice win. Randle's turnovers are basically of three kinds: bad recognition of doubles and late/lazy passes. Holding the ball too long and too low so he can be stripped by smaller players like Westbrick, and poor shot selection which to my way of thinking is the same as a turnover. He took 3-4 bad shots last night, and the ones that I find especially galling is when he drives to his right into the lane and then shoots off balance with too much momentum pulling him right, and as a lefty it ends up being pulled right. If he can eliminate these mistakes he can become a hell of a player.
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Post by irish2u2 on Feb 13, 2021 16:35:11 GMT -5
What game are you watching Trend? Randle was 8-15 and that includes 2 last second treys that he made. Bad shots? That cross body jumper Randle is taking is a shot he has been hitting. You want a list of players who take the same shot?
Randle had 24 points, 18 rebounds, finished a +17 and we won the game. And you are bitching. Just say nice game Julius and move on.
As for Mitch’s injury it’s unfortunate but he is young and should heal faster than old bastards like me. 😎 In the meantime Mitch’s a absence gives Obi and Knox more minutes. Obi and Rose seem to have some chemistry. Good. 😎
BTW I’m watching the Sixers play the Suns and Chris Paul had 2 straight turnovers.
Piker. 😎
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Post by garyd on Feb 13, 2021 16:49:51 GMT -5
Mitchell is a loss. Is it critical? That's the question.
There's no doubt he is a rim rattler on offense, but that aspect may be replaceable with other Knicks personnel and is based more on the passer than the receiver though Mitchell could adjust so well to errant passes above the rim. But Noel can do that.
The loss of Mitchell on defense is of more impact to me. He is the goaltender (last level of blocking). But I've seen Noel perform in a similar manner and maybe his time can be stretched. Taj actually is a better scorer (more ways to score) than Mitch. He is not the blocker but usually is smarter on committing fouls (moving screens) than Mitch.
Lets hope that the Knicks can fill the majority of time with the duo.
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 13, 2021 23:26:33 GMT -5
What game are you watching Trend? Randle was 8-15 and that includes 2 last second treys that he made. Bad shots? That cross body jumper Randle is taking is a shot he has been hitting. You want a list of players who take the same shot? Randle had 24 points, 18 rebounds, finished a +17 and we won the game. And you are bitching. Just say nice game Julius and move on. As for Mitch’s injury it’s unfortunate but he is young and should heal faster than old bastards like me. 😎 In the meantime Mitch’s a absence gives Obi and Knox more minutes. Obi and Rose seem to have some chemistry. Good. 😎 BTW I’m watching the Sixers play the Suns and Chris Paul had 2 straight turnovers. Piker. 😎 Defensive rebounds are kind of overrated since boxing out is not really part of the game so much as falling back on defense. Offensive rebounds are more valuable. Driving right and shooting with his left is a bad shot. Is he a bad shot maker? I guess we’ll have to keep track. You say he’s hitting it |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 2:30:57 GMT -5
But to be fair. Has Mitch made any "shot" this year. I don't think his impact has been CLOSE to Randle's impact.
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 14, 2021 8:20:02 GMT -5
But to be fair. Has Mitch made any "shot" this year. I don't think his impact has been CLOSE to Randle's impact. I can see what you mean. Mostly it's his conditioning. He looks like a different player this season. But he still has room to improve. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Feb 14, 2021 10:36:51 GMT -5
Offensive rebounds are more important than defensive rebounds because they don’t block out.
Not a direct quote but it paraphrases your comment.
And I repeat my comment. Do you actually watch games? Do you understand the game? Today’s game. In today’s game plenty of defensive rebounds don’t require blocking out because they are missed 3 point shots that bounce longer from the rim which is why so many guards have robust rebounding numbers.
Lesson 2. ANY shot you can make consistently is a GOOD shot. ANY shot. Since you don’t watch games, or more specifically the SECOND half of games, you miss a lot of basketball. Apparently too much basketball.
Now make me happy and say you were wrong about Randle and we move on.
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Post by jbnewyork162 on Feb 14, 2021 11:49:27 GMT -5
What game are you watching Trend? Randle was 8-15 and that includes 2 last second treys that he made. Bad shots? That cross body jumper Randle is taking is a shot he has been hitting. You want a list of players who take the same shot? Randle had 24 points, 18 rebounds, finished a +17 and we won the game. And you are bitching. Just say nice game Julius and move on. As for Mitch’s injury it’s unfortunate but he is young and should heal faster than old bastards like me. 😎 In the meantime Mitch’s a absence gives Obi and Knox more minutes. Obi and Rose seem to have some chemistry. Good. 😎 BTW I’m watching the Sixers play the Suns and Chris Paul had 2 straight turnovers. Piker. 😎 Defensive rebounds are kind of overrated since boxing out is not really part of the game so much as falling back on defense. Offensive rebounds are more valuable. Driving right and shooting with his left is a bad shot. Is he a bad shot maker? I guess we’ll have to keep track. You say he’s hitting it But he's left handed so he's going to shoot with his dominant hand. |
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 14, 2021 14:30:13 GMT -5
Defensive rebounds are kind of overrated since boxing out is not really part of the game so much as falling back on defense. Offensive rebounds are more valuable. Driving right and shooting with his left is a bad shot. Is he a bad shot maker? I guess we’ll have to keep track. You say he’s hitting it But he's left handed so he's going to shoot with his dominant hand. I think it's reasonable to work on being ambidextrous when you're 6 feet or less than 6 feet from the basket, especially when you're 6'9" tall. Using glass with your off hand when you're that close is a good adaptation. In that victory over the Wiz there was one play he drove from the left side all the way to the middle of the lane and clanged off the back rim. It's the equivalent of a QB running right and throwing left with accuracy. Only the best QBs can do that-- Mahomes, Rodgers. In the loss to Miami he drove from the free throw line down the the right baseline about 12 feet from the basket and again shot with his left hand-- that is a legitimate shot but also a very difficult shot because momentum forces you to compensate mightily. What I'd like to see from Randle is a bit of that Nikola Jokic thing where he actually can stop in the lane, pivot 180 degrees and just flick it in almost one-handed. Or an up-and-under fake. Totally doable for him. That would make him so much more effective. Like I said-- and feel free to disagree-- bad shots are the same as turnovers. I recall a well-respected coach once saying: I don't mind your taking a lot of shots, just be sure they're good shots. Our guy RJ works at being ambidextrous and I am confident he will increase his effectiveness as a result. |
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 14, 2021 14:45:19 GMT -5
Offensive rebounds are more important than defensive rebounds because they don’t block out. Not a direct quote but it paraphrases your comment. And I repeat my comment. Do you actually watch games? Do you understand the game? Today’s game. In today’s game plenty of defensive rebounds don’t require blocking out because they are missed 3 point shots that bounce longer from the rim which is why so many guards have robust rebounding numbers. Lesson 2. ANY shot you can make consistently is a GOOD shot. ANY shot. Since you don’t watch games, or more specifically the SECOND half of games, you miss a lot of basketball. Apparently too much basketball. Now make me happy and say you were wrong about Randle and we move on. My comment doesn't need paraphrasing, thanks. It was simple and clear. You're paraphrase is weird syntactically anyway. Long rebounds often go to guards because those guards are not being boxed out. And 3-point shots that carom that far out for long rebounds are the result of a bad shooter bricking them; bad shots, especially UFOs from three are the same as a turnover, since long rebounds too often lead to easy fast breaks. Randle is earning his salary this season thanks mostly to his much-improved conditioning-- he wasn't earning his salary last year and it's clear in hindsight he was out of shape or perhaps just not in peak condition-- and that's unprofessional. For him to exceed his salary he should be working on those aspects of the game I have mentioned. If he does-- and maintains his conditioning-- then by next season he should be awarded an extension. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Feb 14, 2021 15:46:22 GMT -5
Offensive rebounds are more important than defensive rebounds because they don’t block out. Not a direct quote but it paraphrases your comment. And I repeat my comment. Do you actually watch games? Do you understand the game? Today’s game. In today’s game plenty of defensive rebounds don’t require blocking out because they are missed 3 point shots that bounce longer from the rim which is why so many guards have robust rebounding numbers. Lesson 2. ANY shot you can make consistently is a GOOD shot. ANY shot. Since you don’t watch games, or more specifically the SECOND half of games, you miss a lot of basketball. Apparently too much basketball. Now make me happy and say you were wrong about Randle and we move on. My comment doesn't need paraphrasing, thanks. It was simple and clear. You're paraphrase is weird syntactically anyway. Long rebounds often go to guards because those guards are not being boxed out. And 3-point shots that carom that far out for long rebounds are the result of a bad shooter bricking them; bad shots, especially UFOs from three are the same as a turnover, since long rebounds too often lead to easy fast breaks. Randle is earning his salary this season thanks mostly to his much-improved conditioning-- he wasn't earning his salary last year and it's clear in hindsight he was out of shape or perhaps just not in peak condition-- and that's unprofessional. For him to exceed his salary he should be working on those aspects of the game I have mentioned. If he does-- and maintains his conditioning-- then by next season he should be awarded an extension.
Three pointers are part of the game now so accept it. Also accept your limitations in physics. Longer shots generally result in longer rebounds. It has NOTHING to do with boxing out because players generally box out closer to the basket creating space for guards to grab rebounds. Since not all missed three pointers go long most bigs stay closer to the basket and guards have a better view of the trajectory and ultimate destination of the longer shots.
Randle was in outstanding shape last season. I posted pictures of him shirtless and he was totally ripped. What he did this past summer was concentrate more on diet and lean muscle building up cardio and reducing muscle mass. That has nothing to do with being “unprofessional” and everything to do with him being totally professional. Give him his due! Admitting you were dead wrong about him then and now shouldn’t be a big deal. Unless you are some kind of narcissist personality. Then you’d rather cut off an arm than admit your mistake. So which is it? Stubborn or sociopathic? 😎 |
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Post by trendsetta on Feb 14, 2021 16:46:00 GMT -5
Oh Bill
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