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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 6, 2009 16:04:55 GMT -5
In the post today Mike D'Antoni sounded like only Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari are safe this summer. I believe his exact quote was something along the lines "we will be seeing considerable action this summer" and he wasn't talking about a day at the beach or hitting strip clubs. Who stays? Who goes? Who should go but will likely stay? Who cares? www.nypost.com/seven/04062009/sports/knicks/dan_threatens_to_clean_house_163172.htm
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Post by whensly on Apr 6, 2009 18:30:23 GMT -5
so where is that knicks legacy photo from? can anyone name everyone in the pic ?
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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 6, 2009 22:25:39 GMT -5
It's a photo off the Knicks home page in their history section. It's the 1972-73 Knicks. Back Row #24 Bill Bradley, #18 Phil Jackson, #40 John Gianelli, #22 Dave DeBisschere, #19 Willis Reed, #32 Jerry Lucas, #6 Tom Riker, # 7 Dean Meminger. Front Row #17 Henry Bibby, #10 Walt Frazier, *Ed Donovan, *Ned Irish, Red Holzman, #15 Earl Monroe and #12 Dick Barnett. * Is an educated guess.
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Post by whensly on Apr 7, 2009 9:25:17 GMT -5
well Wlash = D Antoni should trade some of those guys in the black and white picture just clean house
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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 7, 2009 16:13:47 GMT -5
well Wlash = D Antoni should trade some of those guys in the black and white picture just clean house ....or follow the example. That basketball team was the smartest, on and off the court, basketball team that ever played. Smart guys generally do smart things. Smart teams generally play smart basketball.
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Post by whensly on Apr 8, 2009 13:55:27 GMT -5
they might want to clean house but when have we ever seen a team completely clean house? good luck with that
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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 9, 2009 17:07:06 GMT -5
they might want to clean house but when have we ever seen a team completely clean house? good luck with that Good point. The answer to the question you ask is "never" though Larry Brown has come close a time or two. I think D'Antoni is venting. It's obvious he wants to hold on to Chandler and Gallinari. He may trade Lee or Nate but it's not very likely he trades both. He CAN'T trade Curry. He might trade Jefferies with Lee or Nate but it devalues the trade. He could trade Duhon, Harrington, Hughes, and Q but it's not time sensitive as all of them are free agents in 2010. Chris Wilcox is a free agent on July 1st and Crawford, Sene and Sims all have one year deals.
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Post by kgooglog on Apr 9, 2009 17:35:55 GMT -5
Ah, so #6 was Tom Riker...
Danny Whelan needs an honorable mention as well and was probably Red Holzman's unofficial assistant coach back in the day. What a team that squad was.
I want Wilson, Danillo, and Chris Wilcox to remain.
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Post by kgooglog on Apr 9, 2009 17:39:06 GMT -5
Bill...
You left off Jerry Lucas #32...I know you meant to include him, but were overwhelmed with this Sene fellow, who I have yet to even hear of? An 8 foot wingspan? This is my type of Knick!
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Post by harold on Apr 14, 2009 0:08:54 GMT -5
they might want to clean house but when have we ever seen a team completely clean house? good luck with that you left out jerry lucas # 32
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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 14, 2009 10:07:43 GMT -5
they might want to clean house but when have we ever seen a team completely clean house? good luck with that you left out jerry lucas # 32 I had the picture on one tab of my browser and this post on another. Mea Culpa. Jerry Lucas has been added.
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Post by kgooglog on Apr 14, 2009 11:42:30 GMT -5
When you think about the 72-73 team, it is mind-boggling when you think of the on and off-the court intelligence of this very unique squad. Dr. Dick Barnett, Earl and Clyde having very successful careers as NBA commentators, Senator Bill Bradley, the late Dave DeBusschere's post-NBA career with the ABA as well as with the Knicks, Willis Reed's forays with coaching and being a GM, and, as much as I have criticized Phil Jackson, the man will be a HOF coach, first ballot. What can I say about Jerry "Head and Shoulders" Lucas? The man is a bonifide genious! Dean "The Dream" has also done wonderful work post-NBA.
Just thinking about this squad makes you truly appreciate the work of the Knicks organization back in the day. The Knicks should do something to honor Danny Whelan, whose role as team trainer, was and is, IMO, so under-rated. Perhaps a Danny Whelan trainer's outfit should be hung next to Red's win total in the rafters? Whelan's "work" in getting Willis on to the court in 69-70 is too oft-overlooked. 22 minutes of court time was all Willis needed to get into the heads of the Lakers. Canning two jumpers on one leg didn't hurt, either!
Courage, smarts, and savvy.
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Post by irish2u2 on Apr 14, 2009 21:53:02 GMT -5
That '73 team is likely the smartest that ever played together in the NBA both from real world and basketball IQ. It was a thing of beauty most nights though it hurt to see Reed struggle so much with his bum leg. Clyde and The Pearl were magical.
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Post by pearl on Apr 15, 2009 16:38:43 GMT -5
Yes, the Knicks 1973 team was very special. Jerry Lucas memorized the Manhattan telephone book ( later started a memory company with Harry Lorraine), we all know of Bill Bradley's scholarly accomplishments, Phil Jackson and Dave DeBusschere had great basketball smarts, Bibby was fundamentally sound and Clyde and Earl were simply brilliant. I have the easter 1973 game on tape of the Knicks versus the Celtics. The Knicks won in double-overtime and the game was sensational. Phil Jackson had the game of his life, with a crucial steal of Jo Jo white, resulting in a break-away layup in the second overtime. John Gianelli had a great block on Dave Cowens in the last two minutes of the game, resulting in an offensive foul and Cowens leaving the game with 6 fouls.
Ear and Havlicek were injured an Meminger had a terrific first half for NY. Willis Reed was very, very physical that game, knocking Paul Silas to the ground and showing the Celtics that he still was a force to contend with.
DeBusschere had a huge 25 foot jumper at the end and a following, great righty hook drive coming from deep in the left side, across the foul line, put his head down like a football player and made a great swish hook.
Great game, great team.
Pearl
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Post by ironman95 on Apr 15, 2009 17:14:33 GMT -5
Manute Bol had an 8 foot wingspan, as I recall. That didn't make him good.
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