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Post by kman414 on Jul 17, 2009 1:45:55 GMT -5
Jazz announced they will match Blazer's offer to Millsap.
Maybe the Blazers will make an offer to Lee.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 17, 2009 12:12:01 GMT -5
Kman
I'd be shocked if the Blazers went after another restricted free agent. The process takes up a lot of time and there may be other guys on the Blazers radar that might get signed while Portland is waiting for the RFA machine to work it's way through. For the life of me I don't comprehend why Portland just don't stick with what they have and develop it. They also added 4 pretty good rookies in the draft worth a long look (Claver, Mills, Pendergraph and Cunningham) and a couple might stick. The Blazer "core" of Oden, Aldridge, Batum, Fernandez, Roy, Outlaw, Bayless, Pryzbilla, Webster and Blake seems pretty impressive to me. All they need is a big off the bench and that may be Claver. Why would they want Lee or Millsap off the bench?
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 17, 2009 12:51:18 GMT -5
Jazz announced they will match Blazer's offer to Millsap. Maybe the Blazers will make an offer to Lee. KMAN... Instead, my thought process goes immediately to Utah, who now would pull the trigger on Carlos Boozer. The Knicks are one of about 5 teams Boozer wants to play with, and I took the liberty of punching in Mobley's contract and Gallo's salary (for the qualifying offer Nate would get--$2.9 million if he elected to sign the one year Q.O.) and the deal works on RealGM. I am not a huge fan of Carlos Boozer. However, the guy is a better player than David Lee and would truly bolster our forward situation with Chandler, who I would move to SF. My hope would then be to sign and trade Lee for a real 2 guard or an excellent, young PG from the Hornets, who believes he may be traded soon since his current franchise is being run into the ground and well on its way to self-destruction. Yes, I am talking about Chris Paul and if there were a way NY can trade Lee--I'd give him a one year deal at $12,000,000 which may cover CP3's salary, and when D-Wade becomes free of the Miami Heat, we sign Wade as our sole FA in 2010-11. NY would probably have the best back court in NBA history. The forward line would be Wilson Chandler and Carlos Boozer. Our pivot would be by committee--Sene, Darko, Gallo, Curry. Our bench would be outstanding. Harrington, Gallo (who would also start depending on math-ups), Hughes, Hill, Douglas, Duhon, and Joe Crawford...as well as any one of the three centers already listed... |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 17, 2009 13:01:29 GMT -5
Ken
Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade? Together? On the Knicks?
I think the odds are akin to me making the Knicks roster but it's an inventive scenario that certainly conjures up some very, very pleasant mental pictures. Clyde and Earl Part II.
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 17, 2009 15:38:16 GMT -5
Ken Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade? Together? On the Knicks? I think the odds are akin to me making the Knicks roster but it's an inventive scenario that certainly conjures up some very, very pleasant mental pictures. Clyde and Earl Part II. Bill... I am literally crazed over the Lee/Robinson situation and I am spinning my wheels all over the place. That said, those images of our Rolls Royce Championship back court are being rewound and played in my skull. I brought up CP3 since I read a blurb on Hoopshype that quoted Paul as saying that his team is basically forced to trade him due to the Hornets financial situation and not for any other reason. I sort of fantasized about NY getting Boozer for the Mobley contract and a signed Nate Robinson (It works as a trade on RealGM, then trading a resigned David Lee (One year at whatever Paul's salary is, and going aggressively after D-Wade in the summer. Why am I feeling that we are going to lose both Lee and Robinson for nothing? Why am I feeling that LeBron nor Bosh are coming to New York in 2010? Why am I feeling distressed over Tony Douglas' shooting woes? Why is it that all the other teams in the NBA are signing excellent players like Odom, Artest, Villanueva, Turkoglo and Donnie Walsh is calling Tim Thomas? This summer is going poorly for me, and I realistically know that summer 2010 will be the year of Knick resurgence. I will try to control myself in future posts. |
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 17, 2009 16:34:35 GMT -5
Ken
A) Do NOT control yourself in future posts. Your boundless optimism and enthusiasm fuels this blog.
B) I too am a little frustrated with little or no news about Lee and Nate.
C) There is a strong likelihood of losing Nate for nothing and ZERO chance of the same happening with Lee. Book it. ; )
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 18, 2009 10:42:17 GMT -5
Thanks Bill for your support of my crazed obsession over the Lee/Robinson situations. I agree that Donnie Walsh will not let David simply walk to Portland without a fight. I also don't think the Blazers are going to tender an offer of $8-$10,000,000 per for a player they will use in a reserve role.
For all this angst, I cannot speak highly enough about how Walsh is allowing this scenario with Bartlestein play out. Donnie has effectively broke a time-honored horrible tradition of bidding up one's own free agents. This is the first time a Knick GM is allowing patience and the market dictate the value of his own FAs. Checketts or Zeke would have already inked Lee to a $70,000,000 5 year deal and 'lil Nate would be basking in the Hamptons to the tune of $50,000,000 for 6 years.
I believe Walsh's fortitude will pay off and Lee wll resign for $6.5 million over 5 years, which is what I am guessing the Knicks are offering him. Nate is apparently marching to his own tune and perhaps we lose him, which isn't the end of the world. Clearly, the new regime is setting the bar for what is real and what is insanity.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 18, 2009 11:17:02 GMT -5
Walsh is a cagey, super experienced negotiator. Agents want the most for their clients because they get a bigger piece of the pie. That's business and I find nothing wrong with that as it's their job. Walsh knows how to take away the edge the agent has by, as you stated, letting the market determine the worth. Panic moves cost money. Patience saves money.
That said RealGM had an article where Walsh is trying to get the Lee matter settled soon. I hope it gets done. Nate just got a 10 million a year offer from Greece. I see lots of grape leaves, lamb, Tzatziki, Souvlaki, Baklava, Pastitsio, Saganaki, Galaktoboureko, and Fassolada in Nate's future. ; )
Don't be too impressed by all the Greek dishes listed above. I Googled them. ; )
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 18, 2009 14:30:06 GMT -5
I wonder how much Nate will weigh when he gets the Knicks qualifying offer if he ever returns to the NBA. May the Gyros be laden with Mayonaise ; ) Wow. This Greek team must have Dave Checketts at the helm...
The good news is we have an extra roster spot which can be used for Ramon Sessions, whose PG skills and on-court demeanor may be a better fit for the Knicks than 'lil Nate...
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Post by whensly on Jul 18, 2009 15:52:21 GMT -5
The mets should make an offer to both players..
at this point, "it couldn't hurt"
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Post by axios on Jul 18, 2009 18:36:50 GMT -5
lol- I was shocked you knew all those dishes then I read you googled them, that was pretty funny. I think the offer was 2 years 5million per
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Post by kgooglog on Jul 20, 2009 10:51:48 GMT -5
Eddy "twittered" a food dream and Nate ate it up...Now, we can go ahead and get Ramon Sessions signed, sealed and delivered by Tuesday. Bye, bye Nate.
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Post by irish2u2 on Jul 20, 2009 11:13:09 GMT -5
The rumor is the Bucks, like us with Lee, are waiting for a team to offer Sessions then they will match it. It's smart basketball business to let the market determine value rather than arbitrarily make that decision themselves. The latter approach didn't work too well for us if memory serves me. And it does. ; )
I liked Sessions a lot more than Andre Miller, Grant Hill and Jason Kidd for the MLE.
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