Thinking ahead a little for free agency

[daglazer]

Jun 20, 2021 12:38:52 GMT -5 jbnewyork162 said:

Jun 20, 2021 10:33:15 GMT -5 irish2u2 said:

BTW, I'm on the fence about Gary Trent, Jr. Not a very explosive athlete though he does have good SG size. He can hit treys and he is very offensively precocious but does he do anything else? His rebounding, assist and steals numbers are average at best. I like his age and he's a smart kid but don't we already have a kid like him only taller and much better rounded? That RJ guy...

I want the Knicks to get more athletic. Gary Trent, Jr. doesn't really push that button and frankly if he replaces Burks or Bullock I think it's a step back. BUT.... I have been wrong before and skills beat athleticism (see Luka Doncic) plus I trust our management. Sort of. They didn't make a play for Christian Wood last summer and that was a huge mistake. 

If we had this guy backing up RJ and/or allowing RJ to move to the 3 I'm not going to be mad at all. There's only so much the Stat sheets show about a player. There are things that I look out for that like the clutch game, the ability to overachieve and create your own shot(which Trent can), someone that can take pressure off of better players. He's one of those players and is so young he is not completely what he will be.



Here is a mix of defensive, offensive and and plenty more athletic than Burks or Bullock. Although, I feel whether we go Powell, Duncan Robinson or Gary Trent Jr, they can be added to Burks and Bullock.




Last film talks about how tough, clutch and good he is in the passing lanes:

I LOVE Gary Trent Jr. He is clutch and just starting to scratch the surface of his talent. Thibs will unlock his potential on defense and he brings an offensive skill set that we lack. We should get him if we can.

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Jun 20, 2021 9:49:00 GMT -5 irish2u2 said:

Some thoughts.

Kelly Olynk shot 34% from beyond the 3 point line last season and is an average 36% for his career. We might find a better shooting stretch player.   Like Luke Kornet.   I do wholeheartedly agree another big, preferably one who can shoot, would be useful though it looks like the draft won't produce this kind of player for the Knicks. 

Let's not dismiss the value of Alec Burks or Reggie Bullock so fast. Both were enormously effective for the Knicks last season and while Bullock may be expendable I think the trio of DRose, IQ and Burks off the bench was an explosive combo that played very well together. 

How much cap flexibility does Miami have? They have over 60 million committed to Butler and Adebayo. Nunn and Robinson make less than 10 million between them and I would believe both are more valuable to the Heat because they have reasonable salaries, they know the Heat system and they produce within that system. I do think Miami would match any offer to both these guys simply for their value to the team. Now if Dame or Beal becomes available certainly almost anybody is available for a trade but the simple fact is the Heat won't let Robinson or Nunn go for nothing. They could be traded but they won't be given away. The big question is Victor Oladipo. Do the Heat stay or do they go? If it's me it's a pass. 

The more I read the rumor mills the more it looks like Lowry and DeRozan might be the Knicks targets in free agency. I'm not overwhelmed by this possibility given how many aging star type players went out with injuries this playoff season. Certainly both make the Knicks better but championship better? I don't think so but IF they can stay healthy the Knicks scoring would be much better. The other strong possibility is Lonzo Ball. I'm slowly warming up to this notion as long as the Knicks add a scoring threat too. 

What remains so exciting for me is that at ALL levels of the off season the Knicks have numerous options be it the draft, the free agent market or through trades. ALL things are possible and the Knicks are right in the middle of it all. This summer will be a HUGE test of our management team. 

Spencer Dinwiddie may also be on Knicks' radar

[rxmeister]

I like Dinwiddie, but feel like his asking price will be out of proportion to what he brings to the table. I mean the year he averaged 20 and made the all star team he shot 41% and 31% from three. He’s also coming off his second major ACL injury. There are some players who just happen to do their best when they’re playing against your team and it makes you think they’re better than they really are. When they’re on your team and you see them every day you see all the warts. As for Lowry and DeRozen, yeah they’re older, but they’re still good and it just costs you cap space. And needless to say they’re close and have great chemistry that makes both of them even better. Those aren’t my top choices though, of course I’d prefer a younger type like Lonzo.

[ReneNYG1]

Gary Trent Jr showed this year if given more time could produce better numbers that's why you just have to go by eye test Bill.I think his shot in clutch shows that mojo gene he might have.He does perform well in important sitiuations which shows he has the chops.The best part is his strength and shooting,price and age.His upside being so young is worth a shot.In order to perform in NYC you need toughness and he has that so going in it looks good for him to have a nice career with us ,while not allstar a nice rotation piece.